Michael should be getting royalties
NVIDIA rep created an account to make this post
AMD rep was already an active member of the community
Unsurprising, yet it still speaks volumes.
this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2023
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This might be the first time I've ever seen something productive happen in the Phoronix forums. I love that place. Go to any topic with more than about a dozen posts and it's almost guaranteed to be a flame war. Genuinely one of the funniest places on the Internet.
Check out this one. It took like three posts!
The phoronix forums are insanely toxic. Everything is bad. Gnome = kid's toy. systemd = written by Satan himself. Every programming language = too slow. Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.
It's so toxic yet I subject myself to it every now and again. There's absolutely no moderation going on and it shows.
Any post mentioning Wayland or btrfs is guaranteed to have at least 60 comments
Obviously. X11 and ZFS are far superior. I use Arch, btw.
It's super confusing, like I feel many commenters there live in a different universe. They talk about how Wayland is a failure that has failed to get off the ground, while it's the default in most of the major distros at this point.
It's really good so long as you aren't trying to use it with Nvidia especially for gaming in my experience
Once in a while I venture their forums as a morbid curiosity and it always delivers.
There is some, but unless it gets really uncivilized no action really gets taken. a couple users have been banned
IMO I prefer it that way myself though. you either learn something neat, or engage in a class shittery. lots of other more polite forums such as this if phoronix forums isn't to taste
Interestingly, the guy who made the referenced post, 'avis', is allegedly the new name of 'birdie', a well-known troll on the forums who was banned a while back. Basically everyone there agrees that it's him and no action is taken against this new account.
I don't think there is any doubt that avis is artem lol his profile even says banned in it as a joke. as long as his behavior is better, which it has been even if only marginal, there won't be an issue. even if he does nearly single handedly cause most of the 5+ page... debates
That's hilarious.
"Mozilla is allowing you the option to build Firefox without X11 dependencies"
"Mozilla hates freedom!!!"
I got to page 3 before I couldn't take it anymore and had close 🤣
Nice
I couldn't even read halfway past page 2.
I love Phoronix, but its forum is such a cesspool.
Especially when the original article is about anything related to Rust. An hour after the article is live you'll have 50 posts arguing and trolling like there's nothing more important in the whole wide world. So entertaining!
It takes whatever amount of posts is needed for something Wayland-related
How can one person miss so many logical points is beyond me
This is how the rest of the industry worked for years. Nvidia was just stuck in the past century.
NVIDIA is finally starting to play nicely with the community to help sort the driver mess out. Nouveau paired with NVK might actually be the future of NVIDIA graphics under Linux!
Might make me consider buying an Nvidia card in the future if they can get a reasonably performing and reliable in-kernel driver.
I still won't buy one just because of this news - they have done lots, lots of shitty things in the past. GameWorks, PhysX, Geforce Partnership Program, etc. While AMD is not exactly a saint when it comes to open sourcing, they still commit far more than Nvidia to open standards.
They've been dicks for two decades, just playing a bit nicee doesn't really change anything. If they work properly with open source, and enable proper in kernel drivers for the next decade or so I might consider buying something nvidia.
Nvidia has burned their reputation... Will take years to regain trust.
They are responsible for almost all issues new people have with Linux.
For me it was Gamestream. I literally didn't even check AMD because Gamestream was so important to me. My next graphics card will be the first ever not from Nvidia.
forms
Two mistakes in one word.
This is the most Phoronix forums like comment I have seen so far LOL
Legends says that there is a forum post about an article that not begins with "typo:"
All I see is two people failing their corporately mandated cyber security training at the same time.
If part of their job is working with the OSS community I don't see anything wrong (and I just finished my annual training a few weeks ago, so it's still fresh in my mind).
Edit: keeping an "official" repo secret does seem like an issue, but public posts about the correct process to contribute upstream doesn't seem like a problem.
For the Greater Good !
the Greater Good
Does that mean we'll get more and better firmware updates? Please explain like I'm no firmware dev.
Not really. Instead of dumping all the drivers into one repo, there's now a separate repo just for GPU drivers, which is just a staging area, before they get merged into the main repo.
If you ask "why"? It's like creating an extra folder so that your files are organized better.
As an end user, it's not going to change anything for us.
It does mean you are more likely to get eyeballs on your driver from other people doing graphics card driver work. That usually results in higher quality and a higher likelihood of catching issues.
Only if they know about the repo, and apparently the Nvidia employee responsible for submitting patches upstream didn't.
Maybe that's why their drivers are so bad? /s
This is the way
Lol