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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago

Yeah? Such a dick about it, Nintendo. Your platform is not special and people will run software however they please.

Emulation is legal. Emulation will remain legal. If you can't deal with it except through courtroom bullying, may devs should look into SLAPP defenses.

[–] SergioFLS@feddit.cl 21 points 8 months ago (7 children)

i'm afraid that if NoA wins this, console manufacturers might start slapping DRM into their consoles, and therefore making them (legally) unemulatable and potentially discouraging development of modern console emulation.

now sure, this is a piracy sub, but i'm not sure if the yuzu devs are keen into piracy...

i also wonder if there's any way to fight back. people who dump their legal copies are being screwed as well.

[–] mayuraviva@shelter.moe 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@SergioFLS @ardi60
I'm really concerned about the future of digital freedom. All big corporations are doing shit with governments to regulate and control the Internet, just for profits. Consumers and end users are abused, no governments care to preserve our freedom just to preserve the business of these big corporations like Nintendo, Disney, or Apple.
How to be optimistic for the future?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

“No governments care” is an outright lie. Sure, there’s always more they could do, but the EU is at the forefront of regulating tech. And that’s a big conglomeration of countries and their respective governments.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago

console manufacturers might start slapping DRM into their consoles

You been living under a rock bud? That's literally the idea of a game console, it's ultimately what separates console gaming from PC gaming.

now sure, this is a piracy sub, but i'm not sure if the yuzu devs are keen into piracy...

They literally sabotage their emulator so it can't play certain games in case of leaks, they're well past that point.

i also wonder if there's any way to fight back. people who dump their legal copies are being screwed as well.

Could develop the emulators from a country that doesn't respect intellectual property rights, it works well enough for Empress, obviously it would absolutely not work out for her if she tried to do what she does in America.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

console manufacturers might start slapping DRM into their consoles

... start?

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Time to sell my switch, i only have it because of yuzu.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Considering that the keys are not unique per console, it's kind of weird keeping the Switch around just for Yuzu. I mean you can get key dumps online and those work the same since they're all identical.

Only real reason to do it is because Yuzu devs said so, and that's not a great reason because they don't have any authority to say so, nor any way of knowing if people are actually doing that.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Yuzu is open source though so can't people who don't live in the US just fork it? Copyright laws are a lot for lax outside the US.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Hey Nintendo, Eat dick.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Fuck Nintendo

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I pirated BotW and TotK and others

Which made my brother buy a Switch and TotK and Mario Kart and a Nintendo Online subscription and aaaa...

Piracy increases sales, goddammit. Literally free advertising.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It doesn’t matter, it’s legal to create emulators and plugins for interoperability.

Yuzu cannot distribute switch games, nor distribute Nintendo software, but it can emulate the console.

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Good luck to them. Regardless I'm sure it'll be forked if development stops.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Welp, guess I'm downloading a copy of yuzu just in case.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


If you’ve ever seen a Steam Deck playing a Legend of Zelda game, chances are you were seeing the Yuzu emulator at work.

It also wants to take away its domain names, URLs, chatrooms, and social media presence; hand yuzu-emu.org over to Nintendo; and even seize and destroy its hard drives to help wipe out the emulator.

While there’s legal precedent that suggests it’s okay to reverse engineer a console and develop an emulator that uses none of the company’s source code, those cases are roughly a quarter of a century old or more — it gets trickier when we’re talking about multiple layers of modern encryption and the copyrighted BIOSes that Yuzu and other modern emulators require to run.

DMCA Section 1201(a)(2) bans products “primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access” to a copyrighted work.

“The important thing is that Nintendo is bringing the case as a DMCA circumvention claim,” says Richard Hoeg, a business attorney who hosts the Virtual Legality podcast.

Many small bands of developers have axed their projects after being approached by Nintendo, and it wouldn’t be surprising if Yuzu settled.


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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Sony v Bleem ended with victory in court for Bleem, but it also ended with Bleem out of money and out of business. Nintendo doesn't have to have a legal leg to stand on to practically win, just a big pile of money which they definitely do have.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

I had no idea such a thing existed. I don't usually buy Nintendo stuff, but if this is free I'll probably give it a try

[–] kirbowo808@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Time to boycott Nintendo Online and Nintendo in general for doing so many Ls as of late

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Time? No one should have used Nintendo Online after they started charging for it. 365 days of the year thier games are full price, and they can't afford a free ptp online service? But ohhh wait look they added 3 new old ass games for you this month! Aww they're so cute (oh some of those games they themselves pirated? Silly scamps)

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