I'm thankful they're finally doing something about vsync, but I'm still going to need the option for preventing app sleep when outside of viewport. It sounds like an odd complaint, but it means not being able to have a game on one virtual desktop and its wiki on the other. It means not being able to let music run while I'm working on another computer. It's running better, and I'm glad to see it starting to play nicer with Nvidia, but not quite ready to make the leap 100%
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see it playing nicer with nvidia
This may seem like a small nitpick, but the way you phrased this is backwards. Keep in mind that the problems with wayland on Nvidia cards is squarely to blame on Nvidia. Nvidia is finally playing nice with wayland, not the other way around.
Very fair point
What do you mean about app sleep? I'm doing these things you're listing all the time and haven't had any issues with it.
Interesting! I wonder if it's a Wayland on KDE-specific thing. I'd read it as a security and efficiency feature of Wayland's, where it suspends applications that are not in the viewport. An example case is that I'm playing FFXIV on virtual desktop 1. On virtual desktop 2, I have whatever thing I'm looking up or collecting in the browser. While I'm on virtual desktop 2, it suspends the game on desktop 1, which wouldn't be a big issue in single player games as much, but in games that call to a server, like FFXIV or Overwatch, it disconnects you from the server.
I was able to get around this by using Windowed Fullscreen and turning on Caffeine so that my computer wouldn't sleep, but the turn screen off feature also changes the viewport, so I've had to disable that feature entirely.
Then I work from home, my home computer is hooked up to the sound system, so I'll play music through it, but then be on my work computer next to it. I'd like my computer to still black the screen and lock, but the moment it does either, viewport changes, music cuts off.
If it's viewed as a security feature, then the fix should not to have to be preventing your screen from going off or locking. I'd loooove the ability to set certain apps from suspending when not in the viewport. Bonus points if it's one of the features added to gamemoderun
I'm using Plasma Wayland as well. Games do do that where they minimize on focus loss but I'm pretty sure they did that on X11 as well (especially since they mostly are using Xwayland) and I haven't had any connection problems in multiplayer games when tabbed out. I'd have to see if your problem happens for me with virtual desktops, I rarely use them. And the music thing doesn't happen at all, the screen locks and turns off and music/the youtube video/whatever keeps playing as normal.
What distro are you using? I'd chalk these problems up to a distro bug...
Huh, I didn't realize others weren't having these impacts, because Xorg doesn't have these issues for me, it's just as soon as I move over to Wayland. I'm on the infamous Manjaro, though I had the same issues on EndeavourOS
I didn't have an opinion on this until I tried to disable right click on a ubuntu machine with Wayland. It needs an xmodmap style tool.
That's not a common thing people do tho
True but it's something that can easily be done in xorg because it has almost 20 years worth of tools created for it.
True. But Wayland will get there too, it just takes time.
Yeah but by that time people will be posting 'relationship ended with Wayland, (next thing) is my new best friend.'
It'd be pretty cool if they implemented HDR soon, my debian Kodi box can't display HDR movies correct on my TV.
so Budgie guys doing some work :)
Can't be that good. I did a kde archinstall on a friends desktop just last week, 2070super with proprietary drivers, and wayland crashes on login. T_T
I've been using wayland for years but I'm running AMD.
I tried the Manjaro Sway image and liked it a lot. Felt much nicer than i3. But... there is no alternative to Barrier that works with Wayland and that forced me to go back to i3 and X. And please don't bother to list all Wayland alternatives for Barrier, because I tried them all and none is comparable.