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If you don't pay a subscription you can't see the history of use, it's limited to the latest 5 events. When I bought the ten devices (=I paid 150 euro for the hardware), it was 100 events

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like if storing 100 timestamps in their servers actually costs them like that...

100 timestamps in Unix epoch is something like 400 bytes and can be stored locally on the microcontroller without needing for the cloud

[–] this_is_router@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Prices in kapitalist society are not about the cost but about what people are willing to pay

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 1 points 1 year ago

Mate, I flash my Shellys with esphome and just use them locally in Home Assistant. Or, you could flash them with Tasmota and use the built-in webserver on each device to configure automations.

Cloud-dependent =/= open

[–] TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like I'm going to get a lot of use out of this.

[–] ThankYouVeryMuch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This Shelly thing appears to be the typical cloud SaaS platform. What does exactly make it open?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago

At the moment of purchase one year ago they had an open API and a webserver on each relay to use them without apps (they still have it... for now?). I could just type the relay IP address on my browser and control it without proprietary apps.

I loved this openness so much that I put them everywhere in my house. Then this surprise update came today on my phone....

[–] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I use Shelly and Home Assistant. Set up takes 5-10 minutes. Mine have been plugged up and running for 2 years with no flaws.

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I flashed my Shelly’s with the Homekit firmware from the link below and manage them via the HomeKit integration in HomeAssistant.

https://github.com/mongoose-os-apps/shelly-homekit

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In one of the issue they said he got hired by Shelly and the project then is discontinued

[–] Psiczar@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I flashed mine over 12 months ago and haven’t had any issues since. I had noticed there hadn’t been any updates but didn’t realise he’d stopped working on it.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

All for-profit companies eventually enshittify.

[–] LazaroFilm@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone recommend HomeAssistant and it’s great. An alternative that’s easier to implement if you’re using Apple HomeKit (on HomePod or Apple TV) is HomeBridge. It’s super easy to setup and becomes a bridge to make anything compatible HomeKit.

[–] kittykabal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you may be interested in the open-source "Home Assistant". it's a free home automation hub thingy that supports practically every brand and protocol out there, including Shelly. if you're technical enough to set it up, free yourself from proprietary apps!

[–] digdilem@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A correct and helpful answer. HA is phenomenal, although some report the learning curve is steep - it's totally worth it.

I use it with lots of different vendors and it consolidates and coordinates everything between everything else.

[–] alexrmay91@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Thirded. Home assistant is amazing and getting more beginner friendly every release.

Download VirtualBox and set it up on your computer to try it out for free! No investment required.