Reddit had/has the same problem. It's just that federation makes it way more obvious on the threadiverse.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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@koper@feddit.nl @fediverse@lemmy.ml oh yeah nothing from servers in terms of numbers can really be trusted
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If we stop spam accounts from brand new or low usage servers those could both be easily mailed (emulated activity, pre-create instances and let them marinate)
I don't know much about how making new instances works, but could someone create instances in large qualities with smaller populations with the goal of giving human moderators too much work to defederate them all?
This would actually be a bit more difficult. So first it would be easy for me to set up lemmy1.derproid.com, lemmy2.derproid.com, etc. but if you could just defed from *.derproid.com it's no problem. However setting up lemmy1.com, lemmy2.com, etc. is more expensive because you would need to register and pay for each of those domains individually.
That's not to say it's impossible but there is a bigger barrier to it.
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The lack of karma helps some. There's no point in trying to rack up the most points for your account(s), which is a good thing. Why waste time on the lamest internet game when you can engage in conversation with folks on lemmy instead.
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The nice things about the Federated universe is that, yes, you can bulk create user accounts on your own instance - and that server can then be defederated by other servers when it becomes obvious that it's going to create problems.
It's not a perfect fix and as this post demonstrated, is only really effective after a problem has been identified. At least in terms of vote manipulation from across servers, it could act if it, say, detects that 99% of new upvotes are coming from a server created yesterday with 1 post, it could at least flag it for a human to review.
You can buy 700 votes anonymously on reddit for really cheap
I don't see that it's a big deal, really. It's the same as it ever was.
Web of trust is the solution. Show me vote totals that only count people I trust, 90% of people they trust, 81% of people they trust, etc. (0.9 multiplier should be configurable if possible!)