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[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

my favorite part is that humans have created an orbiting pile of garbage.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, but it’s pretty cool that the orbiting pile of garbage can dodge space debris…

[–] towerful@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, the new Lemmy switcharoo!

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Hold my garbage, I'm going in!

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of the debris is man made that we put up there is my point.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Now there’s a bunch more of it was my joke.

[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have we created orbiting poles of garbage, or are WE in fact orbiting piles of garbage?

[–] Cipher@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The answer to your question is yes

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe we should clean up space?

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the most part, they all are falling towards earth and will burn up. No need to do anything.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Great. Another $900 million wasted. We could have laid a lot of fiber with that money.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Running fiber globaly is very expensive. The satellite solution has its cons, but it's available to a lot of people who otherwise might not have access.

It is expensive, but in SOME rural areas it's still affordable. Obviously not in poorer ones, but it might get cheaper over time. Or it might not. Who knows.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall that the decaying orbit means that they constantly have to put more satellites up. All that energy, all that propellant, and all that space garbage. Billions of dollars wasted. Better spent on fiber. Once installed, baring cuts, it will last for nearly 100 years or more. It has benefits for some, but, IMHO, resources are better spent on fiber.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Universal global fiber is sadly unlikely to happen. I wish it wasn't so, but the fight for me to get fiber in a town has been a decade.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spent five years and gave up on it because Republicans.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Different country here, I'm getting it in autumn.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans who punch down have no borders.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

True. We've just managed to keep ours mostly in check. It helps that they scored multiple blunders before the last election, otherwise it would've been scary.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Wasted how? Because some satellites moved to dodge debris?

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Fiber is too slow when you want to charge billions for letting High Frequency Trading bots running arbitration across different markets to get a few miliseconds advantage over those running through fiber.

Having a mesh of satellites running on "laser through vacuum" to go around the globe, can get you those billions. Which, let's be clear, is the real business goal of Starlink.

[–] targetx@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Perhap we should focus on cleaning up earth first :-)

[–] supercriticalcheese@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will need one very powerful vacuum to do that.

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[–] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Is it just Starlink satellites going through this?

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