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HashiCorp recently changed Terraform from an open source model to something that requires licensing, so folks got together, forked the code, and created OpenTF.

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[–] iluminae@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm glad they are doing this but in all likelihood most people who use terraform are not offering terraform to third parties on a hosted or embedded basis which is competitive with HashiCorp's products and can continue to make production use of it.

But like I said, I am glad it's happening - as an insurance policy.

[–] motorheadkusanagi@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That misses the point, imo. Much of Hashi's ecosystem was created by people who contributed to the product believing it was community owned, as that's what the license said.

Oracle tried to do similar when they closed the source for Hudson. Hudson was forked, creating Jenkins, and I would be surprised if folks even remember Hudson today.

Oxide Computing gets into the details on their podcast: https://youtu.be/QaU94LY891M

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Well. I feel ignorant. Use Jenkins all the time, never heard of Hudson. Looks like I need to do some readin'.

But yeah, I'm guessing you're right :)

[–] qupada@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The OpenTF site itself provides a view on that point: https://opentf.org/#regular-user

And they're right; while you might consider yourself compliant with today's version of the license, they can change those terms whenever, and however they like in the future.

I weirdly do remember Hudson from my previous roles as a software developer, but like so many products forked that way it's barely a footnote in history at this point.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

So if there are many contributors to the code they are continuing to use, did they get agreement from all that they could close source? Or does the license not require that?

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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 4 points 1 year ago

I was wondering why their classes have Hudson in the package name. I just never bothered to look it up.

Not true. A ton of these little companies that do "push button cloud" use terraform versus vendor locked-in tools. This license change is just a play to force these companies to pay up, which is shitty.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

What about vault? Is there a open source fork?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bad timing - we have a few people at my company who want to switch from TF to AWS CDK, and this could be the push that makes that happen