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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Note that this represents who extracted, rather than who burned. Responsibility for burning fossil fuels is much more broadly distributed.

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[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

All that money will be useful when the worlds on fire

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the comment OP. We can hardly blame the companies we consume from.

Think of these megacorps as organisms. They're made up of people, like cells. Some of those cells specialize, turn into organs. Some organs direct the beast, most are merely support. The overarching goal is to survive and grow.

They're not taking so much as we are giving. WE ARE THE FOOD.

Do everything you can to stop feeding the beast. After all, the beast is only doing what's natural.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 7 months ago

You're not necessarily wrong, but it's also important to keep in mind that they spend billions on advertising to populations and bribing governments to make sure that we "need" to use their products

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago

We 100% can blaim them. Those companies activly block alternatives and try to destroy them. They put massive resources in lobbying, PR and so forth for that very purpose, while knowing full well what is going on in terms of climate change. They even transformed our political systems, to allow them to pollute for longer. We have the technology to go fully away from fossil fuels for decades and it keeps getting better. These companies are the reason we have not deployed more of them.

Obviously starving them is a good path, but I want to stab them too. We have to stop extracting and we have to stop consuming. Both has to happen and right now.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

People consume from what is available, the companies control that

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Am I reading this correctly? The headline sounds misleading. 80% of fossil fuel and cement GHGs, which is all the linked database appears to track. It doesn’t touch on other industries or contextualize what portion of total GHGs come from those industries (obviously a lot, but how much?)

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

8% of ghg is due to making cement and about 75% of ghg is from fossil fuels. So about 66% are from the 57 companies.