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Hey everyone,

I am exploring switching over to Linux but I would like to know why people switch. I have Windows 11 rn.

I dont do much code but will be doing some for school. I work remote and go to school remote. My career is not TOO technical.

What benefits caused you to switch over and what surprised you when you made the switch?

Thank you all in advanced.

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[–] itchimachi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I Did not want to reinstall Windows again. Switched and never looked back.

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It was nothing to do with the positives of Linux, it was the negatives of Windows. If they hadn't gone full spyware after Windows 7 I'd still be using Windows today

[–] necrxfagivs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I kept having troubles with Windows 11 and I was also fed up with all the Microsoft crap and how they push they're Cortana, Edge or other bullshit.

Switching has been amazing. Yes, also confusng at first, but you'll learn a lot and rn I'm happier than ever with my machine.

I'm running Fedora Workstation.

[–] Romdeau4@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I really didn’t want to install Vista. I didn’t like how it looked or felt so I swapped out XP for Ubuntu. I stayed until Win7 and switched back to windows, but windows 8 rolled around and I went to Fedora. I’ve been here ever since.

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For me I just want to see Linux get more support and it'll get that with more market share so I switched. I think there should be an alternative to windows or mac. Also the terminal is so nice to have. After many years on linux I'm very comfortable in a terminal but still don't know a lot of the powerful commands, but now with ai I can just ask it how to convert videos or move files from one computer to another and it gives me the command

I saw a post from r/unixporn on all and thought it looked really cool.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 3 points 1 year ago

Windows Vista kinda sucked and Kubuntu 7.10 was so much snappier, and I was already dealing with Linux servers so I liked it for web development.

[–] GreyShack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It was when the third or fourth thing ended up persistently broken after an update and the whole system became too much of a pain to use. I honestly don't recall if it was XP or Win 7.

I had used a couple of Linux flavours before for a short periods and originally planned to dual boot, but this time, just never got around to putting a new Win partition on and found that I had no need for it anyway.

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago
[–] stark@qlemmy.com 3 points 1 year ago

I'm in the same boat myself. Windows is and has been my daily driver since the days of Windows 3.1. Over the past few months, I began a path learning web development and I've been using WSL on Windows 11 to learn. I picked up an old laptop and I'm currently installing Debian with KDE Desktop hoping I to find a life raft out of the Windows world for reasons unknown.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

So it was 1995, and a new version of Windows came out. Sadly it didnt run on our 486 so we upgraded to a new computer with a Pentium processor (a week before the Pentium Pro was released). My parents got their new machine and i was left with with Windows 3.11.

A friend of mine from school, a few years older, had just come back from a computer show down in Green Bay with a box fully of floppy disks (like 70). That weekend i brought my computer over to his house along with a few other friends and we all installed Slackware. At that point we were all using the Universe of Wisconsin's dialup service and were able to get online, do some Gopher, IRC and MUDing.

The only other time i ran a non *nix OS would be when work gave me a Windows machine or when I was gaming (Quake, Ultima Online). Otherwise it has been Linux and BSDs since 95

[–] kinoman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

When I was in college, one of those stupid Lockdown Browsers broke my laptop’s ability to use its physical speakers. No amount of modifying Windows registries or even clean installing Windows could fix it. I booted Linux from a USB stick and lo and behold everything worked as normal. I wiped Windows and never looked back.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Private, Secure, FOSS. I want something that I know is my own and not a $200 license to a proprietary POS operating system that spies on me. Run a packet tracker on any Windows system and watch that guy ping to Windows with every bit of telemetry you can offer.

[–] WarlordTeias@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've been growing increasingly frustrated with how much my computer felt less and less like my own with every Windows update. They have been steadily removing control away from the user and putting me in frustrating positions. I've used Linux for a week here and a week there over the last few years so I thought, screw it!, and made the switch about 3 months ago. I don't feel any need to go back.

The last straw was when using the Xbox app. For some reason I didn't have ownership of the folders where the games were installed. I couldn't see how much space they were using and I couldn't access them to troubleshoot an issue I had. Well I could, but I shouldn't have to manually give myself ownership of non-critical files on my machine while using an admin account. In addition, after uninstalling a 100GB+ game, it for some reason just left the files on my drive (That I also didn't have ownership of to delete.)

The Xbox app also one day decided that it couldn't update any games, the error codes are shit and don't lead to any usable information or the copy/paste responses from their troglodyte community helpers telling you to run sfc, chkdisk, Windows repair then they just tell you your RAM is bad. (This applies to most of Windows' generic ass error messages) To top it off, the Xbox app now launches THREE other launchers by itself... without asking (Ubisoft, EA, Riot). Whoever decided that needs to be fired, ideally into the sun.

I don't want to use anything from a company that hires brain-dead morons that make and/or allow those kinds of design choices.

[–] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, it just came down to how unintuitive and slow Windows's desktop environment is. Setting up the most basic customizations requires going through like 15 sub-menus or dealing with the registry. Also, GNOME and KDE are just so much prettier than Windows's desktop environment.

[–] loopgru@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

This is it for me, too. Back before I got into Linux I was forever tinkering with third party stuff to try to make the UI more efficient with things like Enso and Docker, and make it prettier with other stuff, but it was always a ramshackle cludged together mess. GNOME just resolves all of those issues neatly for me, runs faster, and isn't crammed full of bloatware ad crap like modern versions of Windows. And it's more secure, free, and ethically satisfying as a cooperative, trans-national project.

[–] omeara4pheonix@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Originally, because I was a poor middle school student with a bunch of dumpster hardware. I could not afford a windows license (this was the XP days). I immediately liked Ubuntu (gnome 2 at the time) more than windows, everything felt faster and more customizable. It really screamed on my pentium 3. I used Linux of various flavors all the way through school and continue to use it as my OS of choice to this day. I remember my teachers always being mad that I didn't use "times new Roman" font when I turned in papers, explaining that I used Linux and TNR was not an available font didn't do much for me. I would switch to windows for AAA games back in the day, but that is quickly becoming less necessary.

The biggest benefit I have seen over the years is that it is so much easier to keep old hardware alive (and still secure) with Linux. If your old matching is starting to bog down you can always find a lighter weight distro to load it up with. And when you are ready to upgrade hardware the old stuff can easily be turned into a server, game console, or PC for grandma. Anything to keep it out of a landfill is pretty easy to do. It used to be that you never had to worry about paying for an upgrade either, but now that windows is essentially free for upgrades that is no longer a huge benefit.

[–] Puffymumpkins@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The amount of bloatware in windows 10 made me very uncomfortable (and the fact that they stopped supporting briefcases infuriated me) so I stayed on Windows 7 until Microsoft stopped supporting it in 2020. Tried out some distros like Mint, Pop OS, Puppy Linux. The one I liked the feel of most was Zorin OS.

The main thing that surprised me was how little I actually understood about what Microsoft has become. I did not know, for example, that you can use the Office apps online until this week. I also had been completely oblivious to Minecraft Java Edition being forked into a Linux Edition until I tried to install it. It honestly feels like waking up from a 5 year coma, where everything seems familiar but slightly different.

My main regret is that I can't tell people I'm terrible with computers now, since my family and friends know I use Linux. The upside of this is I've gained some confidence with tech since I can't just throw up my hands and go "oh no, i cant fix this, my tiny monkey brain could never comprehend the arcane arts"

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[–] NameOfWhimsy@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it was pretty gradual. In my university research a couple years ago I needed to work with the university's supercomputer running RHEL, so I got some exposure there. At some point I put Mint on my laptop, keeping Windows on my desktop "in case I needed to do any real work", then about a year ago I put linux* on my desktop as well. I do still have a Windows dual-boot just in case there's some weird software I need to use, but I haven't touched it more than once or twice since. I switched partially out of curiosity, but largely as part of an effort to de-google and de-microsoft my stuff so I'm more in control.

*distro-hopped a bit, but now am settled on EndeavourOS

I was surprised at how much you needed the terminal, but also how easy it was to use the terminal after a bit of practice. I prefer it to GUIs for a lot of things now (like git). Also, installing software from a package manager rather than going to a website and downloading it. I didn't like that at first, but I love that concept so much more now, since I can just sudo apt upgrade and everything is up-to-date (no downloading the new version after an update).

I'm now to the point that when I do need to use a windows machine for some reason, it takes me a second to remember how things work. It's kinda a weird feeling tbh haha

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why did I switch to Linux ? I pushed Windows XP as far as it could go (skipped Vista altogether), and after that I became so frustrated with Windows 7 being so bad that I switched to Linux and never looked back since.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

sick of windows. spyware, forced updates, no customizability... ect

[–] danie10@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, it was much like iPhone vs Android. I've twice been back to owning an iPhone and have kept leaving because of the more closed ecosystem. The freedom to explore, take apart, modify, hack, learn, etc. I don't do a lot of that, but it is nice to try things out. So in summary for me its the philosophy behind it, and I can install it freely across all computers, Pi's, etc in the home.

EDIT: I forgot I'd also bought Vista at the time, and it was not great. I vowed after that not to pay for another Windows OS.

crazy updates which broke normal functionality, absence of tiling window manager

[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
  • control
  • flexibility
  • stability
[–] metacolon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

My brother pushed some buttons in Windows lockscreen, which caused assistance settings to never go away again (I still don't know how I should've fixed it), that was the final annoyance with Windows and I switched to Linux on my laptop. On my PC I switched once I didn't need Windows for work (remote desktop) anymore.

[–] jpablo68@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I made the switch when windows ME was released, right now I'm using win10 for work because of some software that really doesn't have an alternative in Linux but I do run it on all of my other computers. Benefits:

  • customization: If you want a desktop environment there's KDE, Gnome or XFCE, if you want just windows or a tiling window manager there's tons of them too
  • package managers: update all your software on your own terms while you brew some coffee.
  • scripting capabilities: you can automate lots of stuff with bash.
  • scalability: do you have a potato computer, no problem, do you have a nice one, even better.

Edit: I forgot to say that I run Debian on most of my machines.

[–] maxrelax@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago

When I was at uni a professor asked the class to raise their hands if we were using Windows and then MacOS. Then he asked who was using a REAL operating system. Everyone looked confused. He proceded to order all to install linux if we were to follow his class. My First distro was Ubuntu for about a week... I distrohopped for a couple of years and eventually I use arch btw.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back in 2005 (I think), because Windows XP didn't have the drivers for being installed on an S-ATA drive and SUSE could be installed without any hassle. I feel very old.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dad always tells me about how it drove him insane for days that Windows XP couldn't detect the HDD, but it showed up totally fine in BIOS. He ended up taking it to a computer shop, and the bastards didn't even tell him about the F6 floppy (instead they charged him double what was quoted because their techs had to 'learn how to do it').

It was only because they somehow even screwed that up, what should have been a simple setup of Windows XP, and he had to reinstall, that he finally learned from the internet that he needed the F6 floppy.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha! I ran a little computer shop for 6 years starting in 2008 and never knew about the f6 floppy until today

Well TIL

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was nicknamed the F6 floppy because Windows XP setup would say "Press F6 to load a SCSI driver" and you would hit that, select the driver from your floppy, and continue setup.

I've even seen vendor's websites call it F6 Driver because the unofficial name was so ubiquitous

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I hate all of the spying that Windows is engaged in now. What really pushed me over the edge is that Windows started opening a full page Office 365 add in my browser every time the computer woke up from sleep. I couldn't find any information about how to stop it and eventually just said "fuck Windows" and installed Linux. That was about 3 years ago. I still have Windows as a dual boot because I need it for Fusion 360, and the piece of shit still does the O365 add that I can't get rid of and now constantly tries to trick me into upgrading to Windows 11, despite the fact that I've already said no about 10 times. Fuck Windows piece of shit spyware/adware masquerading as an operating system.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I was on windows 10 without an SSD. There is only so much dog slow you can handle before you want to change it. I was amazed by how much faster linux was. Windows 10 was the first windows I noticed that struggled this much. It's like they gave up on performance and just relied on the hardware. I dual booted from there with linux mint and over time, I started windows less. I haven't used it in months.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It was easier to set up than Windows. Windows took longer and had more missing drivers. Linux Mint worked almost perfectly out of the box--all I did was change the video driver for my dedicated graphics (and that was done easily by picking one from a provided list).

Critical last straw for me was having shit Internet and windows updates eating literally all my bandwidth. Other reasons include privacy, ownership, etc. I was already familiar with Linux when I switched.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I really enjoy copying URLs / bash scripts off the internet instead of downloading a file and pressing enter on it.

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

It came down to right-to-repair/upgrade. I've been a mac user my whole life. The 2012 MacBook pro was the last model that users could upgrade themselves. I got a decade plus out of those machines because I could upgrade them. They actually still run quite well, but Mac no longer includes those models in their software updates and no longer allows users to easily upgrade any of their laptops manufactured since. That was it for me. Got a System76 laptop and made the move. Couldn't be happier.

[–] BlueDragon28@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was learning OpenGL at the time and I was frustrated that I could not play a game using OpenGL (When I use a technologie in programming, I love using software that use it) because none of the games in my library supported it. So I discovered Ubuntu 16.04 and I immediatly loved it. I also reinstalled it seven times because every time I broke it and I didn't know how to fix it.

What realy chocked me at the time is how easy it is to install C++ dependencies for your project. You just use the package manager and boom, you link it to your project and your done and if for whatever reason the package is not available in your package manager, you can build it manually very easely.

However, there where some downside too. VSCode didn't exists at the time (or I didn't ear of it) and the only proper IDE was kdevelop which I never liked. Hopefolly, when VSCode came it was realy cool, but not as cool as when I discovered NeoVim. The gaming too was bad, Proton didn't exist, Wine was not as advanced as today and DXVK was not a thing yet. You could only play games that where 5+ years old and only at 15/20 fps with a lot of glitches.

Linux nowoday serve all my needs, I only need to start Windows when I deploy and test some program to it or when I play a game that is not well supported on Linux and I only do it in a VM with single GPU Passthrough.

[–] saywhatisabigw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't want to pay for windows.

[–] Fubarberry@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I had a 3-4 year old gaming laptop, and a mandatory windows update would corrupt the hard drive forcing a fresh install. I say mandatory because it installed no matter what I tried. Disabling updates in settings and registry never would prevent this update from wrecking my computer. I could get a few days to a week of use and then it would crash and require a fresh install.

I installed Ubuntu to see if it was a hardware issue, and it ran great. Years later when I finally got another computer I tried windows again, but quickly realized how many things I hated about windows. I deleted my windows partition and have never looked back since.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It was fun to play with Linux. And it was easier to develop on. The terminal is amazing.

[–] akippnn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When I was 5/6 years old, I loved computers, but I wasn't necessarily a hobbyist. I learned almost everything on my own. I used to heavily modify my Windows desktop back then with skins and Stardock programs to make my desktop look like Mac OS X. I was a big fan of Apple's user interface (iOS/iPad as well, both the skeuomorphism and, well, the flat design a little bit).

So when I was 9, I saw Linux. I decided to use wubi and Ubuntu, tried this brand new OS.

It was awesome. I could modify it as I wanted to. I slept on my primary school classes. Ricing at the time felt great, you had so much control over your own desktop.

I have no idea why I stopped at that point. I think Windows 8 looked cool enough to me, but now I think it's one of the worst OS I've ever used. But games just worked there, honestly. Linux felt more like a toy, while Windows was my comfort zone.

Eventually a few years away from a decade later, I did use Debian 7 for hosting stuff like my bots in GCP. Having used Linux to customize the DE and the exposure to the terminal really helped a lot in making things more familiar to me.

Then I thought why don't I just use Linux desktop again. I started distro hopping. I finally found home in KDE Arch Linux, Proton-GE, the AUR, and Arch Wiki. I rarely do ricing if at all, only because I finally found the setup I'd rather be comfortable with than changing it frequently for no good reason.

I still use W11 to this day on my laptop but only because of school requiring me to use Visual Studio among other things. That's where Docker, WSL2, scoop, MSYS2, and several open source projects to improve QOL comes in. I can be comfortable with Windows and continue to use Linux without any annoying differences in my workflow. I also just use Vim on everything, and the CLI when I want to do productive work.

I've rarely held my mouse on the computer and neither did I work hard to memorize anything. You'd start getting intuitive with everything the moment you start to try understanding the rationale of how stuff is designed to be.

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