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The question above for the most part, been reading up on it. Also want to it for learning purposes.

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[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The possibility to have your packets passed through a shorter route compared to IPv4 packets is worth it imo. I have 280 ms ping to the US and I can cut it down to ~250ms by routing my traffic via certain countries with vpn. I really hope widespread IPv6 deployment would optimize global internet routing so my latency would improve even if just a few ms so I don't need to use VPN to override my route manually.

[–] otl@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe a silly question: any ideas why there are shorter routes using IPv6?

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’m lazy and don’t want to remember more than three digits in an IP address or secure all my devices like they’re publicly routable so I’m sticking with IPv4

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Setup mDNS and you don't have to remember IP addresses anymore.

ssh orangeboats@orangeboats-router.local is thousand times better to memorise.

[–] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could assign short addresses like fd00::1

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[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, ill admit i didnt do it myself until recently when I didnt want to do yet-another-nat-entry and decided to join modern networking.

should have done it years ago.

[–] operator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What were the biggest pains? What was surprisingly easier than expected?

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[–] tvcvt@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s a pretty interesting series on the topic at Tall Paul Tech’s YouTube channel (here’s the most recent: https://youtu.be/WFso88w2SiM). He goes into quite a bit of detail over the course of a few videos about how he handled everything and highlights some of the trials and tribulations with the isp. It’s not a guide per se, but definitely stuff worth thinking through.

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[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely dual stack if you do. The real benefit of IPv6 is that, supposedly, each of your internal devices can have its own address and be directly accessible, but I don't think anyone actually wants all of their internal network exposed to the internet. My ISP provides IPv6, but only a single /128 address, so everything still goes through NAT.

Setting it up was definitely a learning process - SLAAC vs DHCP; isc's dhcpd uses all different keywords for 6 vs 4, you have to run 6 and 4 in separate processes. It's definitely doable, but I think the main benefit is the knowledge you gain.

[–] fedev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Because devices in your LAN will all be accessible from the internet with IPv6, you need to firewall every device.

It becomes more of a problem for IoT devices which you can't really control. If you can, disable ipv6 for those.

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[–] fireduck@lem.trashbrain.org 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. I use ipv6 so I can directly reach all my servers. For public facing things I put it on an ipv4 address but for my own internal stuff, ipv6.

[–] busturn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're asking if you should use it, while my ISP was working on it in 2017 and then it all got canned when they got bought out :( .

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, so manu of these answers are just plain wrong. In short, you shouldn't care as the biggest impact will be to network admins. They are the ones who have to configure routing and handle everything else that comes with new addresses. The rest of the world simply doesn't know or notice whether they are using IPv4 or v6. Business as usual.

If the question is whether you should play with it at home. Sure thing if you have the desire to. It's the future and only a matter of time before it becomes a reality. Said network admins and ISPs have been delaying the transition since they are the ones who have to work it out and putting your entire user base behind single IPv4 NAT is simpler than moving everything to IPv6.

From network admin perspective, yes it's worth moving to IPv6 since network topology becomes far simpler with it. Fewer sub-networks, and routing rules to handle those. Less hardware to handle NAT and other stuff. Problem is, they made the bed for themselves and switching to IPv6 becomes harder the more you delay it. Number of users in past 10 years or so has skyrocketed. Easily quadrupled. We use to have home computers with dial-up. Easy enough, assign IP when you connect, release it on disconnect. Then broadband came and everyone is sitting online 100% of the time. Then mobile phones which are also online 100% of the time. Then smart devices, now cars and other devices start having public internet access, etc. As number of users increases, network admins keep adding complexity to their networks to handle them. If you don't have public IP, just do traceroute and see how many internal network hops you have.

[–] fedev@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Because devices in your LAN will all be accessible from the internet with IPv6, you need to firewall every device.

It becomes more of a problem for IoT devices which you can't really control. If you can, disable ipv6 for those.

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