Carrolade

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

But the dozen or so workers on board didn’t seem bothered.

I mean, yeah, they've still got that whole "earn a paycheck" thing to worry about.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Once you lift the narrative requirement, the number of hits balloons into the millions. I would personally draw the line between education and edutainment on the issue of thoroughness. Education needs to be fairly thorough, while edutainment can skip all the boring (but necessary for full understanding) parts and exclusively handle the fun ideas-based stuff, usually with some oversimplification here and there just to keep things moving in an entertaining way.

I would describe Kings & Generals on youtube as a solid example of good quality military history edutainment.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

If you're looking for a medical drama that health care workers seem to find an acceptable representation of their work, take a look at The Pitt. Apparently they put a lot of effort into being as accurate as possible.

Overall I think your definition of edutainment as requiring a narrative is overly restrictive, I think we could call narrative-less science shows like this edutainment, despite lacking narrative:

https://youtu.be/5HKH1ZjGutA

All that said, the specific combination of scientific accuracy, narrative and for-adults does seem to be a rarer combination of traits. I cannot think of very many at all, and those I can do tend to fudge some of the accuracy here and there for dramatic appeal.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Except that in my experience, even a supporter of said party, when talking about how a member of ours "just toes the line" is communicating a negative, not a positive. That's not a good, genuine guy we're proud of, it's someone to watch out for.

Colloquially too, the way I was raised, it's a bad thing, you did not want to be a line-toer. And I'm not referring to discussions of politics, but how it was used in day to day conversation. I've been accused of toeing lines, for instance, with the implication being that continuing may get me in trouble some day and I should be a little more careful.

Perhaps it's a regional thing.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The same dynamic I was discussing appears in that case as well. The politician may not agree with the policy, and may be willing to violate it, but still toes the party line.

If someone was doing something somewhat shady, but still keeping within the bounds of some rule, you might say they are similarly toeing that line.

The big question to me has become, can you toe a line in a positive way?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I just made another edit to my original comment. lol

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

For the traditional toe the line imagery, it helps to imagine a very rebellious kid that you have firmly told to absolutely not cross some line under any circumstances.

Imagine the kid looking you dead in the eye and smirking, as they stretch out their big toe and put it all over the line while barely not crossing it.

This captures the aspect that you don't have to follow the spirit of the rules or believe in them in any way, you simply have to follow the letter of the instruction to be "toeing the line". There is an inherent malicious coloring to the term that is important, where people that only toe the line are bad people.

edit: It needs to imply that you're searching for ways to break a rule and get away with it on a technicality.

edit2: This got me curious enough to google the origin of the term, and it actually has a wikipedia article, amusingly. Apparently it has a military origin, and the article makes no mention of the negative connotations I mentioned. This makes me think my personal interpretation is actually incorrect, and I now wonder why I picked up on it. In the US, toeing the line does have a subtle negative connotation to it, and people that do it are looked down on somewhat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

I see nothing wrong with suggesting that, so long as it is made clear he is discussing one of many theoretical possibilities.

Is he a kook? He does kinda look like one, but so do a lot of legit scientists, so that's not a good measure.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have a feeling this has probably been studied, but I'm not a sociologist so I wouldn't know where to look.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that game is great. I hardly ever play it anymore, I can't remember the last time I booted it up, yet for some reason it has been allowed to take up hard drive space for many, many years now.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sugar addiction is a thing.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

How often do you handle pushback from other people well? If you normally handle pushback from others positively, and the chatbot just gives you a break now and then when you're not in the mood, that's probably fine. If you normally react poorly any time you receive pushback from someone else, and normally prefer the chatbot because it won't do that, then that is much more worrying.

 

Inspired by a comment in another thread, what was the path you took over your life, through the various online social media we've had?

By way of example, I started in Yahoo chatrooms, to a little bit of Myspace and private forums, to ICQ and IRC, to no online socials for awhile, to facebook, to 4chan, to reddit, ending up here on lemmy.

I've never used twitter, insta, tiktok, etc for any length of time.

If you'd like, your native language and a rough estimate of your age can be included for additional context.

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