CasualPenguin

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[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I know that was a lot to write so I want to acknowledge I read it all, appreciate the effort.

The existence and interactions of your group of activists is fascinating, I admit I lean towards radical inclusivity so it sounds a bit wild to me, but I also get and respect how difficult it is to maintain group cultures and where exclusivity is necessary and productive.

I fully agree that there will likely be some unity under Trump out of necessity and that it will unfortunately probably be temporary (can't help but think about Biden getting the most votes ever being strong evidence towards that)

Not much follow up except to say you seem like a good person, hope whatever influence you seek is supported.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well said, and I didn't intend to say you are tearing down anyone.

The only relevancy to you is your statement about organizing I think is very important, but the blocker imo is that complex issues require working together in ambiguity and I'm seeing less evidence than ever that progressives who very much agree on what a problem is, and most of the solution to that problem, they then start squabbling rather than working together.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I don't disagree, but I think that's still the cart before the horse.

People in general need to stop tearing down people who are closest to them if any complex issue is to ever get solved imo. After the US election all you see is blame getting thrown around, and most of it (that I've seen) is blaming people closest in values for not approaching issues in the exact way the blamer wants them to.

Progressives seem like they will always struggle to make anything complex and meaningful happen when they tear each other down, meanwhile bigotry and regressiveness is pretty singular and easy for their opposition to mobilize.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago

Are you kidding? Is that really an event you think proves your point? Please tell me you will read further on in that event than whoever sold you a partial story and fooled you into thinking that.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 19 points 3 days ago (9 children)

The issue is you can't teach someone who not only doesn't want to learn, they react in opposition to the idea of understanding anything outside of emotional reactions.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago

I also hope that those similar to your ideals focus on building you up for your common values, rather than arm chair criticisms while ignoring the deeply problematic other side of the equation.

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I wish you all the luck in gathering voters behind your cause

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago

Is anyone really that uninformed though?

People voted for the racist rapist. Ignorant would be a component

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 6 points 5 days ago (6 children)

It's really fascinating how so many online have all the answers, and it would be so easy, and yet, you're not out there doing it

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 10 points 5 days ago (10 children)

America voted for Trump, but you're going to blame the people who were working extremely hard to offer a viable alternative?

[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sorry but that's bullshit and is harmful.

Voting is quintessential to getting us out of this mess and trying to downplay the power of voting is only beneficial to those currently in power.

There are many actions to take beyond voting, but there is one very specific reason trump is president right now: his people voted.

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