Chozo

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[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Your argument so far has been "it's new (even though it's not) and I don't like it". If you wanna get extra pedantic, the idea of copyright has been floated since the 1500s, and the concept of owning art predates even that. It wasn't until the late 1700s that our current "modern" copyright system began taking form.

Regardless, none of that changes the fact that it's still a real part of our lives now. We don't live 2.75 million years in the past, we live now. Presumably, you wipe after defecating, don't you? Didn't you know that toilet paper is a modern invention that we didn't have a million years ago and only went to market 3 years before slavery was abolished in the US? It's bad and we shouldn't use it, right???

I still don't get what any of this has to do with anything we're talking about, though. I feel like maybe you've talked yourself into a corner by making up nonsense and then trying to defend it. This is dumb, just like every argument defending piracy; it uses sovereign citizen logic where you make up arbitrary rules and definitions that nobody else in society agrees with to justify bad behavior.

If you wanna pirate stuff, then pirate it. But just own it; don't make up silly defenses for why it's okay, because they don't hold up under scrutiny.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (7 children)

There was no concept of owning a story or a song just because you told it first, throughout literally all of history until the copyright laws of the 20th century.

Brother, copyright has been around since at least the 1700s, you're literally just making things up right now. Read a book.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago

The rain already did that, thanks.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 33 points 5 days ago

I'll feel phantom vibrations on my thigh when my phone isn't even in my pocket.

Sometimes I'll feel a buzz on my thigh, look at the phone on my desk, and then a new notification will come in. That shit freaks me out.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

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"Knight to d4."

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

Not only is this incorrect, it would be meaningless even if it was accurate. What point are you even trying to make with this claim?

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 6 days ago (11 children)

I don't get your argument. So because it's "new" according to your grand cosmic scale, it doesn't exist at all?

You can say "I think intellectual property is a dumb idea" and I'd love to hear your arguments for that, but to act like it isn't real just because we came up with the idea relatively recently, is just asinine.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Copyright has no basis in human culture or history.

It's exited before any of us currently alive, so that's a pretty absurd notion. Unless human culture and history ended ~300 years ago?

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Unlike physical goods, information can flow and be copied freely at a fundamental physics level.

The electricity and silicon required to make this happen are not free, on a societal or physical level. There is a tangible cost to this transfer, even if you're ignoring the social construct of copyright.

I think this issue comes from a misunderstanding of "free", possibly conflating it for "trivially easy".

Rather than develop a system that rewards digital artists based on how much something is used for free

Feel free to come up with such a system. I think you'll find that a rather difficult task.

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Its a scarcity based system

In what way?

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io -3 points 6 days ago (20 children)

but it is still not the same as stealing since it does not deprive the artists of their original copy.

The artist has ownership rights to all copies, not just the original; it's literally in the word "copyright".

[โ€“] Chozo@fedia.io 8 points 6 days ago

Oh well then that's just so much better, huh?

 

I hope we're in agreement that Heilung falls under the metal genre.

 

Just stop it, It's annoying. Use your hands for something else. I'm not looking for a fight. Just bringing you the truth.

 

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Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that an otherwise benevolent artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement.It originated in a 2010 post at discussion board LessWrong, a technical forum focused on analytical rational enquiry. The thought experiment's name derives from the poster of the article (Roko) and the basilisk, a mythical creature capable of destroying enemies with its stare.

While the theory was initially dismissed as nothing but conjecture or speculation by many LessWrong users, LessWrong co-founder Eliezer Yudkowsky reported users who panicked upon reading the theory, due to its stipulation that knowing about the theory and its basilisk made one vulnerable to the basilisk itself. This led to discussion of the basilisk on the site being banned for five years. However, these reports were later dismissed as being exaggerations or inconsequential, and the theory itself was dismissed as nonsense, including by Yudkowsky himself. Even after the post's discreditation, it is still used as an example of principles such as Bayesian probability and implicit religion. It is also regarded as a simplified, derivative version of Pascal's wager.

Found out about this after stumbling upon this Kyle Hill video on the subject. It reminds me a little bit of "The Game".

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