Diva
joined 2 years ago
I fucking hate the rat, but this is when you gotta hit them with the 'weird'
I know a bunch of people from in person organizing in the US who are ML/maoist and have positive opinions of China, Russia, Cuba, etc, but it's generally the kind of critical support you see on hexbear. A lot of them are trans/NB and have grown up in the US propaganda bubble and reject it.
Also pretty sure both lemmy.ml and hexbear.net are blocked in china. It's probably just because they block all foreign social media as a general practice though. If they're looking to do propaganda work they're probably going to do it on platforms with more people tbh.
I made a post about how comfortable they are calling people degenerates on MoG, in the linked thread there db0 had upvoted a post and goat decided to start an interrogation.
This chain of events also has a post on YPTB, they ended up banning all of db0 from the MoG comm.
don't think we disagree, though the point is more that they're necessary, but insufficient. having elections can legitimize the process, but if you turn around and rely on right wing paramilitaries to suppress your opposition then it's not really legitimate.
The SPDs record is anti-democratic, they used elections to legitimize themselves then unleashed paramilitaries to crush organized workers. That's not taking 'democracy seriously,' that's narrowing what it means to protect the state.
Revolutionary democracy is more than just fucking ballots and voting. The entire point is mass participation, self organization and ongoing struggle.
just outright simping for an attempted coup along explicitly Bolshevik lines against a government that had announced national elections
The January uprising wasn’t a Bolshevik-style coup. It was a mass revolt sparked by SPD repression, which the KPD didn’t even plan and which Luxemburg herself thought was premature.
'history major'
time to check in on the straights, how bad could it be 
this whole thing has been salami tactics, but applied to instances.
like they just make up shit, but as long as it's about 'tankies' it just goes around getting repeated unverified. they then expand the definition of 'tankie' as they see fit.
I don't disagree, they have nice features and I hope that results in those features eventually spilling over to similar improvements in lemmy. If it wasn't for the ideological crusade some people are on I wouldn't care at all.
A lot of the promotion of it has been along the lines of 'fuck those tankie degenerates, come use piefed', an example of which I included here
From that link pretty much all of the usage is talking about the literal insect, or talking about reactionaries/fascists using it to refer to muslims, immigrants and other 'undesirables'.
Out of the handful of remaining uses, it's stuff like in the hexbear thread on this meanwhileongrad thread:
This is the most questionable usage I found, and it's referring to fash/reactionaries.
That's not the main point though, the bigger issue was getting called a 'degenerate' that's pretty much a red flag that someone's a cryptofash.
citing db0 on this one:
compare the use of the term on shit vs hexbear: https://sh.itjust.works/search?q=degenerate&type=All&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=TopAll
https://hexbear.net/search?q=degenerate&type=All&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=TopAll
While looking I found this one on hexbear 5 years ago, almost 90 upvotes shitting on stalin for criminalizing homosexuality, and quoting him calling someone degenerate. I read this as extremely critical of Stalin:
All the usage on hexbear I see is either self-deprecating or discussing (negatively) about people using the term.
meanwhile on meanwhile on grad:
hmmm, calling people degenerates and complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 
Goat seems fine with replies calling people he doesn't like degenerates:
more examples:
site admin calls it out, entirely downvoted lol
Like you might think I'm being melodramatic, but I really don't see how meanwhileongrad isn't a nazi bar.
As I said, I don’t have a dog in this fight, it seems indeed bad to have such comments on both sides.
I really hope you re-assess both sides, because they are not equivalent.
I understand, there's plenty of problematic posters to go around, the issue I have is that it's normalized calling an instance which is overwhelmingly trans and queer 'degenerates', that's a major red flag, and it's behavior like that which was why hexbear defederated shit in the first place.
sh.it doesn't seem to have improved in that time
forgot to turn off bighead mode before entering pvp zone