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I mean, at the population level people with comorbidities and susceptibilities get culled early on, and thus the overall rates will look better after that. The issue I have is with only considering healthy people.

Me, I'm going to keep wearing my mask everywhere and continue my personal zero COVID streak for as long as I can.

I never said that immunity meant your body had a perfect defense, nor did I say that you did- though maybe I misinterpreted what you said at the population level re: vaccines as something related to the immunity from infection.

I meant that it doesn't always track that getting infected more means you as an individual are building up immunity across all those infections, people get reinfected after several months and it's often worse.

One guy I knew (indirectly) had had it twice with little issues then died after the third time- he had comorbidities and its an anecdote, but still.

Now we have vaccines and have built up enough immunity that while it is still around and still causing damage to the population, it is no longer the massive threat that it was, even if it is still worse than most people think.

I agree on most- vaccines are great, but immunity doesn't work like that, if anything people getting repeat infections fare worse.

I fear for the children growing up with years of covid infections racked up by the time they're 18, and allowing that to just happen is going to be regarded the same way leaded paint/gas is now.

Like obviously the social/developmental/economic impacts of interrupting school for lockdowns are bad, but both things still be bad and are ultimately solvable problems that we're worse off for not addressing.

I'm just sitting here thinking if we can't even get our shit together for a disease pandemic we're going to be beyond fucked for anything that requires collective action and sacrifice with even higher stakes, like climate changes.

Zero Covid didn’t work (ask China)

It kinda was though, the issue there was that all their trade partners were doing the "let it rip" strategy. Drastic measures can only hold for so long and if the world superpower determines that economic activity is more important than hundred of thousands of its citizens I don't think there's anything China could have done alone.

Wow it's almost like letting it rip through the population was a terrible idea. So why did they "end COVID" (just the payouts to people, gotta make them get back to work) under Biden when it's still very much around? Levels were higher this year than any previous years and the Biden admin actually took Trump's advice "Just stop counting"