DogMuffins

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[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

For the love of everything holy. This is not how grown ups discuss things. Make your point and stop asking dumb questions.

As you well know, no one is directly harmed by the simple act of someone viewing AI generated porn which does not depict a real person.

That said, the law in my jurisdiction does not discern between real or not. If it's an image (even hentai) depicting sexual abuse against a minor then it's CSAM. How do you know if the depicted person is a minor? That's a question for a jury. I'm sure there are arguments against this position, but it's merits are obvious. You don't need to quibble over whether an image depicts a real person or not, if it's CSAM then it's illegal.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This is so tedious. If you have a point, then make it. Stop asking inane questions.

So do people in images that are purely AI generated exist, or not?

This question is based on a false premise, as though the technology used to create an image is relevant to what it depicts.

  • If michaelangelo paints the likeness of a model, does the model in the image exist?
  • if a child draws a stick figure likeness of their dad, does the dad in the image exist?
  • if you take a photo on your phone, and it uses complex mathematical algorithms to compress and later render the image, do people in those images exist?
  • if you run a filter over that image on your phone, does that person still exist ?

Of course in all cases, for all intents and purposes the depicted person exists. You can argue that a painting is just an arrangement of pigments on canvas and you would be correct, but to everyone else its still a picture of a specific person.

If you use a computer to generate an image that "looks like" a school-mate doing whatever thing, then an argument that the person in the picture does not exist because the image was generated by AI is moot, because for all intent's and purposes it's a "picture of" that school mate doing that thing.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh, I don't know, but probably something that doesn't involve gunfights at polling booths.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Fascism and dictatorships are not good for business.

I don't think that this is really true at all.

It may pose additional risks for small businesses but that's not so for multinationals. looking to exploit populations, resources, or markets.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, Biden got the "not-Trump" vote last time but he's shat the bed with the Israel thing.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago

Seriously? Maybe we don't read the same stuff but that's not something I've noticed.

I just can't imagine how that's possible. I wish someone would fire me over porn so I could sue them for unfair dismissal as well as defamation and or libel.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Are you daft? I assume that the person depicted in the photo at thispersondoesnotexist.com does not exist.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which fake people?

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Basically, yes.

Is the person under-age at the time the image was generated? and ... Is the image sexual in nature?

If yes, then generating or possessing such an image ought to be a crime.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

IDK why this dumb thought experiment makes me so grumpy everyone someone invokes it, but you're going to have to explain how it's relevant here.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Of course they exist. If the AI generated image "depicts" a person, a victim in this case, that person "by definition" exists.

Your argument evaporates when you consider that all digital images are interpreted and encoded by complex mathematical algorithms. All digital images are "fake" by that definition and therefore the people depicted do not exist. Try explaining that to your 9 year old daughter.

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