Kaldo

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[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Ah, I thought you meant more as in selling user data for ML training purposes or advertising.

Meta can still do it if even one mutual server has agreed (been paid) to federate to both platforms.

I dunno, maybe I'm too pessimistic but I don't see a way this ever works out in our favor, there will always be someone who doesn't care and just wants all the content. Just look at people being unable to get off reddit or twitter right now. When faced with a choice between sticking with 10% of the fediverse blocking meta, or 90% federating with them (since meta is probably going to be huge just by merit of being backed by billions of dollars), all their friends and companies and communities being on meta sites, there is no way they will choose to isolate themselves. It's how sites like reddit gained a monopoly in the first place, people just look for convenience and everything being in one place.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But meta doesn't need a huge instance called meta to steal data from everyone else in the federation, they can just make an anonymous instance with a bot that subscribes to everything available and get it that way too. It's kinda the way the protocol works, this can't be solved by everyone just agreeing to block meta.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Wouldn't the "extend" part be problematic for them since it's W3C that define the protocol? If meta tries to change it it'd break compatibility with the rest of the federation. Not that it is that well defined right now, from what I've read even mastodon, kbin and lemmy all use AP in different ways, with upvotes/downvotes and post types being interpreted and used in different ways from the technical standpoint and then jury-rigged in frontend to look decent.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I find it hard to understand the argument here, mastodon is full of people dramatically distancing themselves from the "fediverse meta drama" but I don't see anyone actually talking about what the issue is. Are people just vaguely afraid of how meta will change the culture of fediverse and don't have anything specific to say or am I missing something?

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I really wish there was an easy way to export and import a list of communities@domain that you can then transfer to another account. It would make it very easy to just add a bunch of content to a freshly created instance like you're talking about, once you subscribe to communities your instance will start getting updates from them and your "All" tab will get populated.

For now you have to do it manually unfortunately, afaik.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

“I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.”

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, I don't miss 99% of reddit but I have to admit I miss the smaller communities. Most game subreddits I follow are small on reddit in the first place so none of them have moved elsewhere, most don't even participate in the protests, the few that do just link to their discord instead. Many of these subreddits have devs commenting there as well so it's not something that you can replace.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

DM the admins, the only people capable of blocking it, instead of spreading it to regular users? At the very least dont link it FFS, just name it or sth.

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