MarshallBravestarr

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[–] MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
  1. We don't tip workers in those other fields you mentioned because they make a livable wage. Food service workers, particularly servers, often make less than minimum wage.

  2. I'm glad wherever you live pays their wait staff a livable wage. If that happened in the US, tipping wouldn't be the way it is now. Unfortunately the system has to change first. Until it does, if a customer patronizes a restaurant, they should tip. If someone can't afford to tip, they should stay home.

  3. The "invisible hand of the market" isn't going to solve this issue. A change in labor law will. We either need state or federal laws to protect food service workers. Then employers will be forced to pay their staff better and tipping won't be so compulsory.

[–] MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay? So push for better laws and higher minimum wage on one hand and until those changes are made, then tip with the other. We can do both at the same time. Right?

[–] MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

How does withholding a tip end the current system?

[–] MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Customers who don't tip are. They are punishing a worker for the crimes of a system. The restaurant owner/manager doesn't suffer if you don't tip. Only the workers do. So until a change comes to the system where workers get paid minimum wage, not tipping isn't morally defensible.

[–] MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (20 children)

If you live in a place where food service workers are underpaid and you don't tip, you're an asshole. This is not a morally defensible stance unless there is a system to protect those workers already in place.