Melkath

Prohibition. Does. Not. Work.

Thanks for that.

Genuinely trying to make this a learning moment for me, but I also just can't stop pushing my own point. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one like this.

So back to my points above.

When the Democrats had the supermajority, they codified Roe v Wade, right?

That voting record really makes me eat my words.

What about a sitting Democrat condemning the baseless murder of thousands of people a day.

The Democrat was against that and didn't just send 50 billions of dollars to fund a terrorist state to buy bombs from the American war machine, right?

Silence yourself.

I'd feel you if efficacy and efficiency weren't mutually dependent to me.

No. My solution is that you, and according to Wikipedia, finance, Sports Statistics, and ESL people add "descriptive statistic" to their vocabulary.

I hear "the average is 7" and until today that means the values summed and divided by the count of values is 7.

So I run with that.

Then when I'm knee deep in shit, you get all weasly and say "what I meant is that the mode was 7".

Because you call mode an average. But to me it's not the average, it's a descriptive statistic called mode.

If you said "the descriptive statistic is 7" I could say immediately "which descriptive statistic" and you would say "mode" and then my course of action wouldn't get me knee deep in shit.

But, to me, your are Weasley and you just pulled the "7 average" out your ass because you can't math.

So you should have said "the mode is 7" or "I flunked basic math, so right here I'm just saying 7, guess what I mean by 7."

I dont know. This whole thing we are talking about feels like it's summarized by the statement: "I am unable to do basic math, but I get paid to do math, so I participate in this weasly little exercise of incorrectly using the word average, and irl, that usually gets the guy who trusted me getting shitcanned and I can still keep saying 'the average is fucked if I know' and I still have my job".

Last question, because I am mentally screaming and need to make an apt pun:

Why don't you just say what you mean?

Right. The whole linguistic cluster fuck in my head is "mean and average are synonymous, and that measure is a descriptive statistic."

Accepting that average is synonymous with Descriptive statistic, not mean is troubling me.

My real fear is someone who calls a descriptive statistic an average is about to say to me that average and mean are synonyms as well, and that's when I'm ready to flip a table.

Your brain can't be healthy if you call average a descriptive statistic AND a mean.

Just learn the term descriptive statistic. Make your brain healthier. Communicate more efficiently with the world...

Okay. You wholesale skipped my question.

I am asking you, is average one of the 5 core, gulp, averages?

I did an edit acknowledging this and I am struggling HARD to accept it.

By your rules, Average has no less that 7 meanings.

By your rules, average is a useless word that doesn't really convey anything.

But I am on notice that a lot of people are buying into this.

Please answer for me though. In your mind, is average one of the 5+ kinds of averages? Or do you only refer to mean when you are referencing that... (I really hate conceding that this is a thing) "average".

To repeat. For over 20 years, in my world, mean and average mean "a set of values added together and divided by the count of values", and mean/average, median, mode, range, and count are Descriptive Statistics. So when I say "average", you know what I just said. I didn't just say a meaningless thing (seemingly to waste time and be confusing to understand) that requires me to specify if I meant mean, median, mode, range, or count.

Read the fine print. "Americans" means "Jeff Bezos".

The mental gymnastics.

Dear God, the aggressive mental gymnastics.