NoneOfUrBusiness

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

My answer is vague because: 1-I wasn't answering the OP, I was replying to you. 2-I don't like to engage with the "they're trying but it's so so complicated" sort of genocide apologia much because it's a pain in the ass.

I'll just say: Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy and the easiest way to falsify a statement is counterexample, so I got you a counterexample. Now can you state exactly what different between the 1980s and today generates rhe difference we see today? If anything Israel was more important to US interests back then due to their role in the cold war. Also, state department employees, who are presumably well versed in international relations, are resigning. Your framing that only ignorant layman are angry with the Biden administration is patently false.

Edit: I forgot to mention: Drop the ad hominem. Reported.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

Your list is all "says and "meets". There's no single "does" in this whole list, except the (pitiful) sanctions that I admittedly thought were taken down in the planning stage. Anyway, if it was as you said stats department employees wouldn't be resigning left and right. The Biden administration wouldn't be criticized by experts on the middle east everywhere. Your implication that the people angry at the Biden administration are ignorant laymen who don't know better is a patently false appeal to authority. Suffice it to say that if the Biden administration wanted Israel to stop, they'd have stopped by now. Israel literally cannot exist in its current state without the United States. They do not have the economy necessary to commit two genocides at once while holding down a population of oppressed natives, and all naturalization agreements with their neigibors were quid pro quos with the United States that Israel on their own can't sustain, let alone expand. Israel would be eaten alive by their neigibors without US support and they know it.

The naive belief that US presidents have a switch in their office that lets them turn the actions of other countries on and off is inaccurate in the extreme.

Multiple US presidents, the most famous of which is Reagan, did it. And it took a whole lot less than a year.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

So to counter basically your whole point: You know how Reagan stopped the Israeli bombing of Beirut in 20 minutes with a phone call in 1982? That's how someone who actually wants Israel to stop does it. Biden isn't stopping them because he doesn't want to, not because his administration is "diplomatically the US is continually trying different tactics to stem the violent efforts of a nation...".

Don't defend genocide support, it's not a good look.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

they're moving way too slowly, but they aren't moving backwards

Name one single action they're taken other than ask Israel nicely. You said sanctions but they never actually sanctioned anyone. And the threat you're referring to was specifically stated to not be meant as a threat.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'd guess a sizeable bipartisan coalition within the military industrial complex sees it exactly the same way.

They did address that point.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nope. Thanks to billions of US dollars.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What makes you think a rich person is getting the same?

The fact that they're almost certainly not using different apps for different users. And the fact that there's no rich person tier for streaming services. They have no way or reason to distinguish between a rich person and an average Joe. It doesn't matter how much money you have when there's nothing to pay for.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Someone like him raking in the money, money can guarantee better service than average joe's pull.

Huh? How does that even work? He's rich, but they're not making a custom app or server for him. He still has to deal with the same buggy nonsense as tour average Joe.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OMG halal windmills where can I get them?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this guy a troll pretending to he a paid propaganda actor or something? I'd hope (well not really) the real thing would be more competent than... This.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

It's more than likely a problem of service, not price. Even if you have all the money in the world, bad service is bad and people's time and patience aren't infinite.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait isn't Ireland an EU tax haven?

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