I would never hire a company that had a clause like this. Just find someone else. There's a reason they felt it necessary to include that.
PhilipTheBucket
How do you think a firefight between ICE and the National Guard would go?
That's more my point. ICE can fuck up plenty of the helpless, and that might include you and me soon enough. But my point is that co-opting the forces that actually know what they're doing is often a good accompaniment to that idea, and they're not even making vague attempts at doing anything like that, they are doing the opposite.
Count your lucky, lucky, lucky stars that these people are such idiots.
It doesn't mean they are not dangerous. The Nazis were exactly the same type of hilarious buffoons, not good at anything, until all of a sudden it wasn't funny anymore and the nightmare came to life, neverending. And the Trump people are doing a pretty good job speedrunning getting the camps up and running, they've already started on the undesirables and it's working, and they're building a huge number more as we speak.
But still, Jesus Christ. They could have had their pick of conservative sociopath lawyers hand-picked by Peter Thiel to whip shape into the DOJ and turn it on all the domestic opposition. They could have doubled military pay instantly, and had heartwarming rallies where they assured all the troops and all the cops that finally, with us in charge, you have someone on your side in government. It would have locked in their victory like a fucking armbar. Instead, they're taking all these people whose support and agreement is vital to this thing really coming off without a hitch, and putting them into these moronic and hostile situations, literally every chance they get.
Think about it: You're a career prosecutor, you've been busting your ass for decades in a high-stakes profession, and you're successful at it. And then one day you walk in and your boss is Jeanine Pirro and she's going to be taking over going forward.
Just think of how the interactions with her go in the workplace. Think of watching her fuck up important things, left and right, and that just being your new reality.
Jesus Christ man. We got lucky, a little bit, that it came in this form when it came. Their sheer moronitude has to be some kind of weakness.
Little few-dozen-people towns like this in the middle of nowhere are fucking wild sometimes. It's just a bunch of people doing whatever they want, for the most part. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes it's real fucked and people who grow up and leave have some insane stories and basically never go back.
Remember this when someone tells you "voting is a waste of time" "anarchism is better, we don't need all these corrupt structures" or similar things. There's a reason why we settled on the systems we have. The corruption that fucks them up is real, sure, and it's a big problem, but it also exists in exactly the same form if you get rid of the system. It actually gets way worse.
It is funny that in Piefed this topic is classified under "Chilling"
Man, some wild shit is going to happen before 2032. All of this is one scenario, yes, maybe, but this stuff is like weather forecasting on the Titanic at this point.
It's not that serious a mystery.
If you stick people in tents in the desert, they tend to die. And, not a lot of people want to be involved with something like that, and so they're making the point by giving absurd amounts of money to anyone who is willing to be involved. Same as the high salaries for ICE recruits.
They can do whatever they want. On the other hand, the people of the country can throw things other than sandwiches.
People tend to get confused, even when they are familiar with all these founding documents and principles (which the current government is not). They start to think there are "rules" and they get to say what's allowed, and they can punish people who do what's not allowed, but it doesn't go the other way, because that's not allowed and they're in charge. That's not reality. Reality is, we're all just on this planet bebopping around, and if someone is in a "government" role, it behooves them to make sure the people "under" them agree with the idea of them being in charge. Because no one has a monopoly on violence or vigor.
Even the top leaders of the USSR (starting with Kruschev) had to figure this out: He made a mostly unspoken deal with the other leaders that he wouldn't try to kill them for being potential threats, and in return they wouldn't kill him to take him out of power and replace him. And what do you know, it worked! It's better that way. The US up until now has had a little more sophisticated version, extending beyond the inner circle of leadership, but it sounds like Trump is hankering for an earlier era without really being aware of its perils.
I think what Trump wants them to do is put down protests, and overrule judges, politicians, and local law enforcement through violence if anyone doesn't obey. You're right that arresting random individuals is a lot of what they're doing right now, but that's not why Trump wants to send them.
Yeah. I don't really know politics well enough to know how realistic it is. I do know that most of them exist in a weird white-collar corruption ecosystem which really doesn't give a shit about parties D or R, working people, America's standing in the world and success or failure, any of that stuff. They just work for who pays them, and for the most part, who pays them is the rich sociopaths who are completely fine with putting all the poors in camps.
I feel like a certain amount of it is also deliberate partisan sabotage by people who care specifically about R instead of D, but I think mostly it's just the bipartisan Washington consensus that Bernie Sanders is a loony old guy and Hilary Clinton / George W / Mitt Romney / Hakeem Jeffries / all those indistinguishable dickheads are the future of this country, because they're going to continue to enable all of "us" to get filthy rich without really having to work for it.
Honestly, the National Guard is a lot better trained at this kind of "dealing with large groups of angry but mostly unarmed and harmless people" situation. The cops are trained and experienced at dealing with individuals, for the most part, but when they're faced with a big protest or a riot they are often making it up as they go along.
One thing that multiple National Guard people said after they got involved in BLM in 2020 was that they often felt like their role in practice was to protect the people against the police. Since their job is, more or less, to maintain order, and the people were (most of the time) pretty orderly and the police often were not.
This dude is really just 180 degrees out of sync at all times