Shatur

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come up with some CIA word salad.

Sure, anything that doesn't align with your worldview is just word salad😅

tell me that russian invasion is not that bad?

That's not what I said, but whatever 🤷

Hope some day you chill and won't be that toxic.

Of course, they support the killing.

Let's see what they actually say.

Yes, they do wish Ukrainians death.

This basically means we want russia to win to conduct more atrocities likes in Bucha.

Well, I’m not sure how you’re interpreting this from the link I provided. You just making up their statements. I don’t want to have to cite their comments every time just to provide a counter-claim.

You’re just going to say some non-sequitur about NATO

AP is a credible source, and there’s no doubt that Russian forces have harmed civilians. However, the claim that all Ukrainians who speak their language are imprisoned is questionable. For instance, Chechen is an official language in Russia despite two wars with Russia. Additionally, Russia provides citizenship to all Ukrainians, why would they imprison people for their native language? The article you referenced cites Radio Svoboda, which has ties to the CIA, so it's not a reliable source.

I asked you why I shouldn’t hate them for it?

I think my answer is correct. You’re accusing them of supporting murder, yet you wish harm upon them yourself. If you prefer analogies, it's like condemning murder while being guilty of it yourself.

But you are trying to make something bad look good. Mao is a bad person.

No, you implied that if someone likes Mao, then they support killing. And I said that it's not the case - Marxists like him because of the good things he did and condemn the murders.

Really, this is best you could find?

You said that they wish Ukrainians death. I said that I doubt it and provided messages that prove my point. You made up their statements and are arguing against them.

Consider this thread as an example. Read what they actually say. You blame only Russia, they think NATO plays important role as well. But no normal person wants the war, that's what I trying to say.

you wouldn’t call it genocidal imperialism? Just war, right?

If the violence is the primary goal, then it's called genocide.

I also doubt that Russia banned the Ukrainian language or sent people to torture camps for speaking it. Could you provide a source for this?

Why shouldn’t I want them to meet the same fate... Can you explain this to me? You keep ignoring this point.

I answered a few messages above. I doubt that the devs wish harm to Ukraine or people in general. And even if they did, you would be no better than them 🤷

Then why are you white-washing Mao's atrocities?

I never did 🤷. White-washing is when you try to justify or make something bad look good. I'm simply saying that he did both good and bad things, and some people admire him for the good parts. So, if someone likes Mao, it doesn’t necessarily mean they support the deaths he caused.

Where is the strawman?

I assert that people on Lemmygrad oppose NATO expansion and believe that the US is the greater evil. You claim that they wish harm upon Ukrainians. However, opposing US imperialism does not mean they want the Ukrainian people to suffer.

For example, looking at the upvotes on this comment from Lemmygrad's world news, it's clear that they feel sympathy for Ukraine. There are individuals, like this commenter, who suggest bombing Ukraine, but the comment is downvoted.

This is why I wouldn’t say that people on Lemmygrad want your nation to suffer. I don’t necessarily agree with their opinions, but they certainly don't deserve death.

You do understand that good things can be achieved without mass killings

I never implied that deaths were necessary.

No, they support the killing of Ukrainians

That's a bold claim. Condemn actual people's statements. You're making a strawman to justify your hate.

NATO expansion is determined by national self-determination

That's the weirdest explanation I've ever heard 😅 You're also using the word "genocide" wrong. Genocide is a purposeful attempt to destroy any human group. In the case of Russia, that's just imperialism - they simply don't care about Ukrainians (sadly). Otherwise, any war could be called genocidal.

Does it really puzzle you why he would admin lemmygrad?

I'm just saying that it's a bit weird to administrate two instances related to socialism (they're the two oldest instances), but maybe he has his reasons 🤷

So you’re saying that there is something inherent to Chinese culture that would not make it possible to advance literacy, ..

That's not what I said. I explained why he is considered controversial. He did many good stuff and that's why some Marxists like it. Not because some of his policies were responsible for a vast number of deaths - that would be weird 😅

Dessalines admins a instance that openly supports russia’s (a country that’s not in any way socialist) genocidal invasion of my country. That’s not wishing me harm?

Sure, Russia isn’t socialist by any stretch of the imagination. From what I can see, Lemmygrad users oppose NATO and US expansion, I don't think they want Ukrainian people to die.

Why does this page state that:

My bad, I didn’t know that! I assume it’s true then. Before the Reddit blackout, ML was a socialist-leaning instance (they edited the description of the instance), while Lemmygrad always were like this. It puzzles me why he might administrate both instances.

Mao was a brutal dictator that directly caused an inordinate amount of deaths and suffering

He made quite a lot of bad stuff, that's true. However, he also liberated the country from foreign occupation and advanced literacy, women's rights, basic healthcare, education, and life expectancy. China's population nearly doubled under his leadership. This is why he is considered controversial. It's strange to compare him with someone who occupied half of Europe.

he most definitely supports the genocide of Ukrainians in the occupied territories

These scoundrels wish me, my family and my fellow citizens harm

You made conclusions about his opinions yourself and are trying to argue against them. Condemn actual statements. I don’t see dessalines wishing harm on you, but I do see you doing the very thing you criticize him for.

My man, the head developer of lemmy is the admin of lemmygrad

No, he is not. Check admins section on lemmygrad.ml, which profile do you think belongs to dessalines? He is only admin of lemmy.ml.

He has a fucking Mao picture in his profile!

It's a controversial figure, but it doesn't mean that the dev supports crimes or genocides.

How should I put this without breaking any rules? ...

You judge people who support genocide, I get it and I here with you. But wishing death upon others because of their opinions? That’s just hypocrisy.

Could provide a link to a comment or a quote where the devs whitewash the crimes or support genocides?

I saw that on ML you might get banned for stuff like calling Xi Jinping a Winnie. But not for an opinion. Especially about Russia.

Can't they change this status?