Th4tGuyII

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 8 points 1 hour ago

Problem is its not actually about the children. As always they're the excuse. The UK Government will stoop to almost any excuse possible to give itself more surveillance powers - it took 1984 as a goal rather than a warning.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 4 points 1 hour ago

In recent times, for sure. But that's because the capitalist class have done a very good job of making people afraid to rock the boat like their ancestors did...

After all when you're one bad paycheck from starvation, or you're working two jobs just to make ends meet, your first priority is surviving.

And for those who aren't, there's a practically militarised police force to keep you down should you ever step out of line.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mate, I literally said two entire comments ago that I agree that incidental consumption of uncontaminated soil is not dangerous or harmful.

But let me say this loudly enough for you to hear this time...

ACUTE INCIDENTAL CONSUMPTION OF DIRT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS CHRONIC INTENTIONAL CONSUMPTION OF DIRT.

The former is not dangerous =/= The latter is healthy.

If you can't wrap your head around that then there's no helping you.

And while the votes might not mean much to you, saying that everybody agrees with you whilst the public display of who agrees with you clearly shows you're full of shit is plain disingenuous.

Anyways, I've got better things to do than argue with a brick wall who'd rather call others stupid than actually stand behind their own argument - so I'm gonna leave it here.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 135 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Honestly yeah, that's so sad. The Obamas looking like goals, whilst the Trumps look like they're halfway through a divorce trying to look friendly for the kids.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I was trying to give you benefit of doubt that you didn't do enough due diligence when grabbing an article to link - hence I tried to throw an olive branch in the form of an actual article on geophagy to discuss.

But seeing how impolitely persistent you are that this article says something that it plainly does not makes me think that you're actually a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect and that you simply do not understand that the article title "Should we let kids eat dirt?" Isn't literally what the article is about.

Which is to say that if you're so confident that everybody disagreeing with you is wrong, please give us any quote in this article that you linked where it even just implies that eating dirt healthy for children?

And as for everybody agreeing with you? You should really check the like:dislike ratio on your comments before saying that, because they tell a very different story. Literally your only comment with a positive ratio was the first one, and I'd be more than willing to bet that was from people who scrolled by it, felt your comment affirmed their belief, then left without actually reading the article.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

And how can you confirm that when you didn't read far enough into the article you linked to realise it didn't actually say what you're trying to cite it as?

As @BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip said, a child incidentally ingesting dirt while playing outside is very different from intentional Geophagy. Conflating the two and acting like everyone else is stupid for pointing that out doesn't look good on you.


In any case, if you want to discuss an article that is actually about Geophagy, and gives a fairly balanced and objective look into Geophagy and its potential health benefits and risks, I'll give you one.

Certain types of Clays (not just everyday soil) are believed to be able to provide real medical benefits when consumed, mostly in the realm of relieving GI tract conditions ranging from stomach irritation all the way to parasitic infections.

However, that is not the same as saying that regular Geophagy is healthy. Again, certain types of clays can contain minerals in high quantities of Macro and Micro nutrients that the body cannot naturally produce.

But there is a good reason why the cultures where Geophagy is most prevalent are also cultures where there either is or was a high level of regular food scarcity. The bioavailability of these minerals is generally quite low compared to organic sources, and these mineral rich clays often contain an unsafe level of heavy metals to boot - which can cause many, many issues with chronic consumption.

TLDR: Acute consumption of uncontaminated dirt definitely won't hurt you, and can in some cases may actually carry medical benefits - but chronic Geophagy is not the health kick anybody should be looking for - ranging from sort-of harmless to potentially very harmful over a long enough time period.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago (9 children)

No, but I think it is tripping you up.

Exposure means many different thing depending on the context, but if you actually took the time to read the article you linked, it's clearly referring to external exposure - as in playing in dirt, getting covered in dirt, etc.. Which makes sense as we evolved to be outside - our immune systems need exposure to germs to calibrate properly.

But that is very different to advocating for consumption of dirt, which this article isn't doing. Literally the only part of the article that actually references consumption of dirt is this paragraph...

So let them play in the dirt. If their hands end up in their mouths, or some of the dirt ends up in their mouths, keep an eye on them. If they develop a rash or fever, take them to a doctor. If they don’t, they’re probably fine.

Which is clearly telling parents to not stress out about accidental consumption. This article is at best neutral about the practice, with a side of caution.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 35 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Just so you're aware, that article you've linked isn't about literally eating dirt. It's about encouraging parents to let their kids play outside so they're more exposed to the natural environment so their bodies don't become hypersensitive to allergens and the like.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago

At first I was imagining just a handful of dirt from a grassy patch - but it seems to be implied that they're actually eating clay - which I vaguely remember being told can help with a sore stomach.

However I'm also aware that clay can contain heavy metals, which baking can't remove, so I'm inclined to stay away and just have a bit of bread instead.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 19 points 3 days ago

Genuinely. Ukraine should never have given the USSR's nukes back to Russia.

Nukes are an extremely powerful way to deter an enemy from fucking with you.

Which is probably why the US shits itself at the mere thought of Iran ever having nukes - something they get more and more motivation for as the US continues to fuck with them.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago

So the secret is the BS the administration made up after they were told that they'd need congressional approval if it really was just a ballroom

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

Well that's gross. I'm just thankful you have to explicitly opt into this for now, cause I'm staying the fuck away

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