TinyPizza

Did you think I didn't understand your joke and that's why I thought it wasn't funny? It's just not a funny or original joke. We get that you thought it was funny, hence the gracious advice to not attempt a career in comedy.

What's your endgame here where you turn into the statistician nobody wanted or asked for? You were unlikable before this and now its just crossing into lonely sad man territory. You pissing into the wind while you desperate wikifacts and USA Today articles isn't improving anyone's stock in your opinion. I'm glad you don't like the city so many of us happily call home. Nobody asked you and nobody cares.

Yikes, don't quit your day job.

Imagine living and enjoying your city and the people in it quite a lot. Then try to imagine that every piece of national news you'll ever see about it is because of cars or the selling of murder narratives. It gets old and doubly so when someone is trying to paint a portrait of a place and community they've never stepped foot in. I love this place and my Muslim and Jewish neighbors that live in it. If you don't feel the same way for your community and your neighbors then I feel sad for you.

Perfectly said comrade of the narrows. That's Michigan real ones. We use our voices to lift up community rather than try to poison peoples minds with prejudice.

As opposed to the actual genocide in progress. Keep Detroit out of your fucking mouth you inbred. The people from both communities are fine, respectful and for the most part supportive of each other here. From Levin to Tlaib, we value our diversity and the large immigrant communities that have been a staple of the Tri-county Metro area. You're trash.

A system that fully accepts environmental realities and works against the wholesale ecocide of the planet as it's first tenet. The rest is kinda whatever at this point. It could be a resource based economy or some sort of mixed planned/free market. Just gotta make sure that invisible hand doesn't strangle us all in our sleep, ya know?

Holy shit, do I ever!

The fact that you know this down to the episode is amazing. You sir are a true wonk.

Too long of an answer:

So that is hard for me to pinpoint, just because there's close to 900 episodes now and I think I started listening in like 2019ish? The show started in 2017 and I remember after I listened for a few weeks I decided to start from the beginning and was surprised by how different the feeling of their approach was. I would say by 2019 they we're much less willing to write off gross stuff and were more concerned with Alex providing cover for extremist patriot guests. Post election and J6 they are pretty on the nose about calling out what they perceive as Alex's more deep seeded motives. With the final form of just general disgust and every info wars episode being a new low probably arising around the 2022 sandy hook defamation trial in Texas. Maybe a little before that. I'd say that the change in perception very much follows the arch and evolution of not only Alex, but much of the country letting the mask slip. So yeah, I'd say it's gradual.

As I recall the show was always a mixture of both current info wars episodes and past ones that Dan found interesting or silly. Sometimes what they covered would be dictated by how interesting (or not) the current info wars episodes were and then over the last maybe 2 years they would go to older episodes when Alex was in "time out." Which is basically when hes on such a horrible rip of racist, xenophobic, homophobic, incendiary garbage that Dan doesn't want to listen or give it air on their show. More recently though they cover that stuff when it comes out. So I'd say he's put mental health aside and feels more of a need to document some of these things to the audience. It's really horrible stuff and you can see pieces of the through line that led this guys mental state and the murders.

Alex's shtick of being "beyond the left right paradigm" and masquerading around as some libertarian with secret truths probably mostly ended around 2019-2020 where he got increasingly dependent upon drawing in more audience solely do to his support of Trump. He also has Stuart Rhodes, Roger Stone and Michael Flynn on a bunch in that time frame. So tying those worlds together was very lucrative for him with the level of access he was getting to people Trump was pardoning and putting reliance on. I think that's the best way to look at his increasing influence and role from 2016 on. It always mirrors where the right is going because he wants a cut of the cultist grift and then will amplify deceptions to create new market space and solidify his position as someone with secret knowledge. This ebb and flow cycle creates a feedback loop and this guy who is just making up shit to sell garbage supplements is eventually selling insurrection. Recently it shows itself even more clearly. Alex goes on 5 minute tantrums saying REAL gross stuff, and it's just him trying to get a racist or homophobic clip to go viral out of desperation for money.

Go listen to the Project Camelot episodes about space raptors if you want some more zany fun stuff. It's also absolutely worth listening to their episodes covering the Sandy Hook cases (especially the ones called formulaic objections) and the debriefs they do with Mark Bankston (who is the prosecuting attorney and a listener.) It gives excellent perspective to hear Alex in front of a court and how he turns on and off without control.

It's funny because at the beginning of that show Dan does think Alex is just some kind of a grandstanding/ridiculous pill, gold and water filter huckster. He was listening and watching ironically, largely for cheap laughs, and as kind of a game to peel back the layers of the "turn the frogs gay" onion.

It took a decent amount of time for them to get a handle on how awful he truly was, but more importantly, the intent. When you look at it through the lens of the current episodes you can see that the beliefs were always there but that there was way more effort to maintain the mask and disguise the true sources. Pretty much like you said.

Part of what makes the show interesting, in hindsight, is how long he was given the benefit of the doubt. And I say that as more of a testament to who Dan and Jordan are and the difference of the times from then and now. His fascination morphs into disgust and the novelty becomes more of an accidental chronicle of right white radicalization. I wonder who Alex will say was really behind this.

I like this comment, but don't love it... I give it a 1/10000th of a 9/11.

Campaigns are expensive, gotta get some of that AIPAC money.

Just did cumin, chili powder, cracked black pepper and salt for my lunch tacos. Tossed them with olive oil and used the mesh rack for my air fryer/convection. Perfecto.