TinyPizza

Cleanse the yacht with holy fire!

So you're saying you think they should burn the yacht?

ACAB, eh?

well regardless, sorry that happened to you

TLDR; if we don't work toward solutions to racial justice before socioeconomic justice, the power and capital likely won't exist to follow through with the former

So, I can't say for sure but what I think you've ran into is something that I heard best explained by a podcast once (I think it was one of Robert Evans). My guess is that what you encountered was organizers trying to take account for the systematic imbalance of power that is inherent within the US. Often times it goes unseen by many of us that can't see it because it doesn't effect us in the same way. We can see those problems of poverty and lack of support but then what about the added struggle of race, gender, disability? Those things added on top create deeper and different issues that we can't account for, because we can't know them. It's the argument that to rid society of these myriad issues we must take the privilege we have and can't see and use it to back POC to fight the problems that they see.

I think I know where you're coming from now, and though I've been in spaces where that happened, I've never seen issue in it because I believe in the premise. I've known multiple persons who did run into situations and feel like their views or voice were being marginalized from it though. I wasn't there for their experience but I mostly think it was a misunderstanding on their part though and they couldn't move past their ideas being of less importance/priority. I think this can play out in ways that can be counterproductive from time to time, but also that set backs that come from it are eventually learned from and worthwhile.

It's hard knowing how you want to organize and feeling like the roadmap is right in front if we could just come together and focus a part of the problem. There's a risk that we still leave others behind though if we don't address their issues before our own. People and movements lose interest once their needs and goals are met and if we want to pull off the big move forward we have to do it all together.

Am I closer to talking about what you were now?

a gun to our collective head or else we wouldn't have voted for him

Oh, I guess I'm just not hearing those same things where I'm at. Are these progressives POC?

I sure did hear a lot of neo-lib politicians in my area saying that same thing when there was a push for Medicare For All. "It's confusing and nobody knows what it means" is what some centrist dem congress people kept saying where I'm from. A few years on, now that the steam has been tapped and those same politicians are putting "healthcare for all" in their literature. The co-option against progressive policy is coming from inside the party and old railway Joe (not a progressive) outlawed a strike for... the railway workers.

Also, not seeing this abandoning of labor to focus on race you speak of. People flooding the streets over police murdering POC isn't a political maneuver. Could you lay out where your seeing this focus on race and not labor from progressives?

Couldn't you just hire several more teachers and staff to switch out certain days subjects/coverage to achieve full 5 day coverage while also cross training people to better fill gaps. Also the education system is mostly just there to turn us all into workers of some sort, so as the regular work week shortens, perhaps the school week should as well. Especially if we're trying to maximize that extra family time.

I think part of the point of a less taxing work week/environment is part of the draw that could bring people back into these sorts of jobs.

Michigan only changed due to a citizens ballot initiative that created a independent board to redistrict the state. Not every state has that mechanism. I also wouldn't characterize either the Governor or a large portion of our Dems as progressives, though they certainly do love to use language that leads many to think that.

Thanks for the recommendation. Just downloaded (just in case) and I've gotta say, I might like this enough to switch out even if they don't mess with my browser player.

Try to step away from your bias here and look at what you've written objectively, as if you're reading someone else's writing. Does that person seem rational and logical or does it seem like they've jumped to conclusions? Set that aside and ask yourself, besides this are there things in your life that are bothering you that you'd like help with? As suggested elsewhere, this may be an excellent time to consider therapy and focus on some self care.