ToastedPlanet

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (7 children)

And removing the filibuster will serve the christo-fascist agenda just as well as anything else.

It takes one vote for the Republicans to remove the filibuster. If the Republicans gain the majority in the Senate, there is nothing the Democrats can do to stop them. It's an honor system. The filibuster ties the hands of the pro-democracy majority. The christo-fascist minority is free to obstruct when they are out of power and free to remove it when they are in power. Which the Republicans will do, because fascists are bad-faith actors.

You can try to hand-wave it away and act like I’m pointing this out for the “sound bites” (?), but it’s simply a fact.

"They did it first!" is literally a sound bite for the press. The Republicans were always going to remove the filibuster to get Supreme Court nominations through. Blaming the Democrats based on what they did previously was a post hoc fallacy to justify their actions.

Perhaps you should look around. Half the country fully supports those christo-fascists, and they seem a lot more armed, a lot more organized, a lot more politically entrenched, and a lot more strategic.

FAAFO

You’re right, they will probably remove the filibuster when they get in power, and you’ll get your wish.

Wanting a functioning, majority rule democracy isn't the same as a christo-fascist dictatorship. By getting rid of the filibuster under a Democrat controlled Senate we will, in theory, be able to utilize systemic change to solve existential crises such as climate change and redistribute wealth to fix wealth inequality.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So if you want to represent the nuanced, complex (one sided) world of real politik, then that is certainly a good exercise.

No, unlike your argument, I'm not arguing we split hairs over semantics.

she will never reach the vast majority of those people.

Unless.

She committed to ending the war in Gaza. If the war ends, the genocide ends. Tell people.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Republicans are bad faith actors. They will remove the filibuster whether Democrats do it or not. The Republican's intention is to form a christo-fascist dictatorship.

Our society is in need of systemic change and wealth redistribution. The time to act is now to prevent the worst outcomes of climate change.

All you need to change the filibuster is a majority of votes. There is no "they did it first clause" in the Constitution. That's a post hoc justification for sound bites.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (11 children)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/01/fact-check-gop-ended-senate-filibuster-supreme-court-nominees/3573369001/

Democrats lowered the voting threshold from 60 to 51 for most presidential nominees, but not Supreme Court nominees, when Republicans tried to debilitate the Obama administration by obstructing his cabinet picks.

Republicans lowered the voting threshold from 60 to 51 for confirming Supreme Court nominees when the filibuster got in their way. Republicans are bad faith actors who only care about power. No amount of a safe guards will tie the hands of bad faith actors when they are in power. If Republicans take power, they will get rid of the filibuster as soon as it is convenient for them to pass legislation.

All the filibuster does is entrench minority rule even further. It makes Democrats need a supermajority when they were already representing over 41 million more voters in the Senate in 2021.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22215728/senate-anti-democratic-one-number-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff-georgia-runoffs

41,549,808.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (13 children)

That is correct. The Democrats need to get rid of the filibuster, since it's unlikely for them to get 60 seats. It is another mechanism in our government that perpetuates minority rule. Another reason why we need to vote Blue in record numbers.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (20 children)

It is not useful for Harris to call the genocide a genocide because it would hurt her chances of being elected. If Trump is elected instead of Harris, the genocide will continue until all Palestinians are dead.

Since we want the genocide to end before all Palestinians are dead it is not useful to demand that Harris calls the genocide a genocide because that hurts the chances of the genocide ending while Palestinians are still alive.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 days ago (15 children)

With Republican obstructionism, the only way for Democrats to get anything done is to control the House, the Senate, and presidency. Without all three, Democrats will have an ineffective government that is incapable of passing laws to solve problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8psP4S6BQ

There are limits to executive orders but they have their uses and a cool song too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0&t=7s

For them to be invaders they would have to be from somewhere else. These are home grown domestic terrorists spawned from our society and late-stage capitalism.

They are invaders in the sense they've invaded the minds of our friends and families with their fascist ideas.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Saying the genocide should end and that Israel has a right to defend itself aren't mutual exclusive statements. The fact Israel's government is committing genocide does not mean Israel's citizens, many of whom are Palestinian, deserve genocide. The fact Hamas kills civilians does not justify the IDF killing civilians. Two wrongs do not make a right. edit: typo

Turning back to the students, Harris acknowledged his claims, saying that “what he’s talking about, it’s real. That’s not the subject that I came to discuss today, but it’s real and I respect his voice.”

This is from the second source in your argument. She acknowledges what is happening even if she isn't in a position to call it a genocide politically. Your argument is splitting hairs about semantics.

Repeating her call for a ceasefire, she said that she hoped the killing of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar would present an opportunity to end the war.

Another call for a ceasefire.

She’s also still repeating the debunked Oct 7th rape claims, and more.

Your argument is repeating debunked claims. There were some false claims, but those have been used to incorrectly dispute what happened at large.

https://perma.cc/6QPV-3NKL

In the context of the coordinated attack by Hamas and other armed groups against civilian and military targets throughout the Gaza periphery, the mission team found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred in multiple locations during the 7 October attacks, including rape and gang-rape in at least three locations, namely: the Nova music festival site and its surroundings, Road 232, and Kibbutz Re’im. In most of these incidents, victims first subjected to rape were then killed, and at least two incidents relate to the rape of women’s corpses.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-2-debunked-accounts-of-sexual-violence-on-oct-7-fueled-a-global-dispute-over-israel-hamas-war

The U.N. team investigating sexual violence said it saw “credible circumstantial information which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation, sexualized torture or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.”

Hamas is bad. The IDF is bad.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/06/20/un-evidence-sexual-violence-hamas/

The commission also found that Israeli forces in Gaza had committed sexualized and gender-based violence during their military campaign, targeting men and boys in particular.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Kamala is running for president not Biden, so your argument poses a false equivalence.

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