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Immigration lawyer Gabriela Ramo says that under Canadian law, someone's citizenship can only be revoked if it can be proven that they committed fraud or misrepresentation to obtain it.

"Before they could move to do this, they would need to introduce legislation, there would have to be amendments to the current Citizenship Act," said Ramo, former chair of the Canadian Bar Association's immigration section. "There's no provision that would allow them to pursue revocation of citizenship of a Canadian birth, by virtue of his birth to a Canadian mother."

Whereas stripping him of his citizenship would accomplish nothing at all.

The petition is purely symbolic

I don't think people have really thought through what is symbolic of.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"We don't have time to put people on trial" is not a take I'm prepared to get behind.

And even if it were...how would revoking his citizenship change any of what you just described?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm pretty sure the portion of the Act that site refers to was repealed in 2017.

Canadian citizens who (are alleged to) have committed treason should be tried under to Canadian law, and there's no reason to invent loopholes to avoid having to put someone on trial.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe illegally revoking the citizenship of people we don't like is a bad thing?

The sort of thing they want to do?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pretty much. There's a strong argument that "eliminating barriers" may be synonymous with "deregulation," which...could go badly.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This was a decent explainer. In a nutshell...

  • There are four categories of trade barriers in Canada: natural barriers such as geography, prohibitive barriers such as restrictions on the sale of alcohol, technical barriers such as vehicle weight standards and regulatory barriers such as licensing and paperwork requirements.

  • The 2017 CFTA was intended to cut down on some of these barriers, but all provinces and territories negotiated exemptions for various reasons, ranging from different safety regulations across provinces, to different language requirements, to industry protectionism.

It's not clear right now which barriers the feds can unilaterally eliminate (and whether we agree with all of them), but I guess we'll find out within the next week or so.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Roddenberry Archive is probably the best place - navigate to the section called "765874".

They just link to YouTube videos, but I find the actual YouTube channel challenging to find stuff in.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't know if I agree with that assessment, but they do seem to have one writer who does nothing but write about how bad Carney is, and another who does nothing but write about how bad Freeland is.

From what I can tell, he would have to have acquired the citizenship fraudulently, and he didn't.

There used to be a mechanism for the citizenship of people convicted of treason, spying, and terrorism offences to be revoked, but it was repealed in 2018.

I would like to think the rule of law still applies here.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That seems like a weird whatabout. How is your job related to how much funding the CBC gets?

In the end, funding the Ukraine-Russia war instead of promoting the peaceful settlement that was being negotiated between Ukraine and Russia in April 2022 has been a disaster for Ukraine and for Europe.

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