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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think it's completely possible to enjoy a flawed creation.

And in this case, I think La'An's story this season was fairly strong, even though it was heavily (if not entirely) tied to her relationship with Spock.

Ortegas got an entire episode devoted to her, but the criticism about her experience with the Gorn being largely overlooked prior to that is completely fair.

Uhura certainly had less to do, and I think Una was pretty short-changed this season.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She sort of sidestepped the question in the interview...my answer would be "no, but who cares if the story's any good?"

Interestingly, I see someone at Memory Alpha has been incorporating stuff from the first two episodes into related pages...we'll see if that sticks.

See, I meant what I said last week about being bad at listening to podcasts!

That's an interesting question. Kirk seemed pretty determined to let Khan and his people have a real chance on Ceti Alpha V, so it makes sense that he'd allow them some tools, and even weapons.

But this episode also makes a bit of a big deal out of Khan's reaction to Starfleet technology that's much more advanced that what he's used to. Some kind of throwback/antique weapon would make sense.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought this was a decent one. They continue to walk the line of adding depth to Khan without necessarily casting him in a positive light.

I'm a little surprised they dropped the Sulu/Tuvok framing device, but I didn't really miss it.

RIP Joaquin, I guess the guy in TWOK is your kid.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the fanatasy/hallucination wss made by Batel

Yeah, I think you're right - that's the only anwer that makes any kind of sense. I was just thrown by the fact that Real Batel showed absolutely no awareness of, or interest in, what had happened when Pike snapped out of it. At least, that's what I remember - I haven't gone back to double-check.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does beg the question of what about the project "requires further development" - it seemed like a pretty comprehensive plan when I looked at it.

The Alto project is on the "secondary" list of projects that are likely next.

I think Discovery handled Pike's "destiny" in the best possible way by rooting it in character.

Pike grabs that time crystal because he's dedicated to the mission, and to Starfleet. He will eventually save those cadets for the exact same reason. There doesn't have to be anything metaphysical going on there - he affirms that that's the kind of person he is, and that's why he'll end up in that situation one day, even knowing it's coming.

It makes me sad that SNW has been diluting that.

Or is it only a combo thing?

That seemed to be the implication. In which case, I think it might have been better to have Batel get more fully "possessed," and take the angle that she knows exactly what's going on, and what needs to be done. It would take her agency out of the episode, but...the episode didn't really give her any agency as it is.

 

Written by: Dana Horgan & Davy Perez

Directed by: Marja Vrvilo

 

Based on a story by Nicholas Meyer.

Written by Kirsten Beyer and David Mack

Additional writing by Mac Rogers

Directed by Fred Greenhalgh


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