Wanderer

Lack of cultural integration, homophobia, sexism, racism, religion, lack of local training and development, lack of capital investment, high housing costs, poor housing quality, wage suppression, increasing density of the country, crime, making places less desirable and more crime ridden.

But no one ever wants to talk about anything that isn't short term averages.

I haven't got an issue with immigration as a concept or necessarily as an average.

But there is a reason no one complains about first, second, third generation Australians coming to their country not learning the language, not integrating, committing crimes and no treating women right. A lot of people on the left live in outright denial about immigration.

Sure keep the upper class happy by keeping wages down and house prices high. Only costs you money, safety and community.

Immigration is lost in the short term averages at the least. It needs breaking down and calculating out over lifetimes.

But that still doesn't excuse anybody flushing the rule of law down the toilet.

Did i say it did?

People obviously care note about immigration than that. That's how high of a priority it is I guess.

I guess this just goes to show what everyone is saying.

The left is shooting themselves in the foot. People care about immigration and the left won't solve it. So they lose power, that's democracy in action.

If the left want wants they need to listen to the concerns of the people.

I was thinking about the US lately. Can't remember why exactly maybe some friends popped up on my Facebook.

But I decided it actually wouldn't be that bad of a place to live. If it wasn't for the toxic work culture.

If they worked normal hours and had 20+ holidays it would be alright. Other shit annoy me and you would have to make sure you live in the nice areas but I could live there and enjoy it. But the work culture is an absolute no go. Wish they were like the Aussie. Show up do hard day of work fuck off for some beers. If the surfs good call in sick and end up seeing your boss in the line up. Work hard for a few months then decide fuck it and go to Bali for a weekend accidentally stay there for two months then decide you need to go back to work because travelling is too much effort walk into a job 1 week after landing home.

I'd send them a picture of my arsehole.

Cunts.

There worse things than being a virgin.

There was a TV show. Stephen Fry 100 greatest gadgets.

For 1 he told a story about how some guy was talking to a largely uncontacted tribe and they were really interested in their tech.

So he knew they would have a supply drop and took them out to see the plane for the first time ever. The tribe was remarkable unimpressed with the sight.

The guy asked what was up and they came back with the reply "You can make fire from your fingertips. Of course you can fly"

He named the lighter the number 1 gadget.

For the data I asked for or for the misleading data I mentioned?

You don't seem to understand my point even remotely. So the conversation is done.

I'm not going through your data dump. You just gisp galloping

Asylum is abused. We are talking economic immigrants here.

We need a data driven decision. Not listening to you who "know" things based on feels.

It's white nativism, which is a form of racism, whether you are aware or not

See you full of shit because I'm not. The issues with people from Hong Kong, or Japan or the pacific or actual asylum countries crossing their nearest board to get away rather than get to like Ukraine is fine. Even places like Nigeria show much better stats than others. Though total numbers are also important (with the exception of actual issues like Ukraine)

I would love data driven info. That's what the people want. But also things like culture are exceptionally important to people more so than even money and people should get a vote on it rather being told to accept people that hate homosexuals or treat women like second class citizens just so the ruling class can make more money from houses and cheap wages. You come to a country the least you can do is act like a member of that country.

You just dropped a load of shit without explaining it.

But glancing at it it looks EXACTLY like the point I was making.

Generals and averages I agree immigration can be made to look good. When you go into the details things change. Where does it look at country of origin? Where does it show contributions over life rather than just prime age? Where do you see intergenerational affects? Where does it talk about training instead of filling gaps with foreigners ? Where does it talk about all these effects of different earning percentiles of the population?

When every people go into that level of details things look different.

Plus it doesn't all come down to money

How many new houses are built by immigrants and how many immigrants are there?

They could built all the houses but absolute numbers matter not percentages.