cinoreus

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[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, I too prefer being on lemmy over reddit. I was just wondering about the EUs current push for open source alternatives, if they can ever succeed in their pursuit.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, without a recommendation engine, or a for profit model, fediverse is destined to stay an enthusiast space.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Truth is, fediverse's more fragile than people wanna Admit, that's my opinion from using it for a week. Firstly, everything works on grants and donations, there's no for profit model that's running these servers. That's bad because running social media is expensive.

Second fediverse's still utility first, user experience second priority. there's no recommendation algorithm on mastodon or most other fediverse servers.

Third, this is coming from a security stand point, fediverse is vulnerable to both centralised architecture, and decentralised architecture attacks.

Also it's just, for 90% of people, if they want to have a website like tiktok, they will just go to tiktok. Especially in case of tiktok. Very few people want to try stuff that's not as fully baked as corporate owned social media

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Exactly, fediverse tikrok gives a lot of "eco-friendly cigarette" vibes.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Semrush is supposed to be not that inaccurate. It's a data analytics platform. I don't have the subscription to it to verify this myself, but it's a huge issue if they are posting inaccurate information.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So it's the thing with all big social media giants? Why it's surprising is because with 40-35k mau, lemmy feels like it's thriving, especially compared to reddit

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeaa, I misread the information. 1.2m is the total users. Real mau is 40k, 35k specifically for this month

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

One of the weirder information I found. The website seems to have quoted semrush here, so idk, but monthly unique users from America is more than America's population

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

When you put it that way, bots sound like a reasonable answer. But would crawlbots actually prop up monthly active users that much? I thought it might be like 10%.

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, but bots does not sound right. That would mean 90% of reddits monthly active users don't even exist. 50% is a more pallatable number, even close to 60 would have been okay.

Why I am finding it hard to digest is because reddit already is suffering from a bot problem that's visible. Like even the engagements are sometimes artificial, especially the political ones. So if you say 90% of reddit mau is bots based on this, then the number would be closer to 95.

 

So I just simply compared the top posts of lemmy r/all and reddits r/all. Currently this month's top 5 r/all posts are somewhere between 228k - 142k upvotes, while lemmy's are between 2.2k and 1.7k.

The monthly active user count of reddit is over a billion, while that of lemmy is 1.2 million(edit: no it's 40k. It's looking even worse for reddit). If we just compare them by these metrics, reddit has 1000x the users but 100x engagement. And this also held true when I compared the meme subreddits using the same metric, but news subreddit was an outlier where the subscriber to upvote ratio was equal between them.

It's extremely crude calculation, but since I observed this pattern, I felt I need to share this somewhere. What I feel is that as social media platform gets larger, the number of lurkers, people who don't engage, increase. could there be any other reason?

 

Hey, I am curious, are people working on storing fediverse data off the servers? Like using bittorent protocol or ipfs?

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