gapbetweenus

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

I make that point in general, that I don't trust governments with regulating speech. By the way I'm all in for private platforms regulating speech, would not hang around here otherwise.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Or maybe you got it wrong and that's not the point I was making?

The reasoning used in Assange and Manning case, is that information they made publicly available is endangering peoples lives. That is not unsimilar to the argumentation that hateful speech is endangering people targeted by it.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

Do you ever try to understand what the other person is saying? Why bother otherwise?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -3 points 7 months ago

Dude, I'm not siding with her on any issue besides freedom of speech - which just happen to be my opinion.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Calling for extermination, I would agree on. Since it's more than an opinion it's a call to action.

Most sane countries don’t have a lot trouble with this.

I'm really curious for examples.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

I disagree with her on pretty much everything, except on the freedom of speech part - even for speech I might personally find disgusting.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Free speech is the ability to criticize your government without going to jail for it. It is not meant to protect your right to trash minorities.

And my point, governments have a history of using such laws in the end to get rid of critics. Sure this time it will be completely different. I would love to share your optimism, but you will have to allow me to remain skeptical.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Taliban are obviously the only terrorist group on the planet and rebels were never before labeled as terrorists.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

They were fighting against first Sowjet and than US-American occupation.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe bad faith interpretation of my argument on your side.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -4 points 7 months ago

My right to travel is not infringed because I can walk.

Hateful people will be inspired by books and by speech to be hateful and to hurt others. Not sure why you draw the line at books, since also speech can be used as a lesson.

I would also there is fundamental differences between causing an immediate panick and voicing a hateful opinion. The later was times and times misused to silence governmental criticis. Sure - this time it might turn out different, since good guys are in power, but I highly doubt it.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So it's about how a law is applied. And you still don't see the potential danger of a law regulating speech? Guess we won't agree on this one.

I don't really see a benefit in people being forced to phrase their hateful opinions in a way to circumvent laws. In the end, Rowling won't stop spreading her bigoted hateful bullshit - in best case she will just phrase it a bit different, which actually might get some stupid moderates on her side.

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