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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5007912

Mastodon discussion

Kbin.social and one lemmy instance with queer furries (yiffit.net) were mentioned in the article.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3250365

Highlights:

Admins are also banning everyone for saying they're leaving

What surprises me is that people think making a community specifically for illegal activity isn’t a problem, and that they should only be called on their behaviour when a copyright holder notices them. There are plenty of places to go for piracy online, so what’s the need to add a community for it here? Or are you people claiming a piracy community wasn’t primarily intended for piracy?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426956

Time to host my own instance. I disagree with this move.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2429393

The people whining are not the people that could face multimillion-dollar lawsuits over the issue. Like it or not, media companies are powerful and will go after websites seen as promoting piracy. Do what you reasonably have to do.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426973

Oh no. Wtf. Do you know what’s funny? I actually joined this instance from piracy subreddit.

I guess it’s time to leave.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2425186

I don’t think this was the right call. Don’t have it hosted on here, fine. But defederated? I don’t see how being federated would be an issue at all. Oh well guess i got to actively go seek them out now.

At this rate, you might as well as defederate from all instances. Cant be too careful.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427348

Bootlicker [-8]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427940

These communities are not even hosted on lemmy.world, this is an absurdly overreacted response. There were no signs of any legal trouble and I can’t understand how lemmy.world specifically would be the target of such legal action. If you want to host an instance, you should do everything in your power to allow discussions on any topic, while in necessary cases disallowing direct posting/linking of illegal content. Instead, you chose to block a community that has long been known to avoid having any trouble with the moderators.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

Doesn’t matter if they are hosted here or not. The way federation works is that threads on different instances are cached locally.

We have NO issues with the people at db0 - we are just looking out for ourselves in a ‘better safe than sorry’ fashion while we find out more. As mentioned in the OP we would like to unblock as soon as we know we can not get in any legal trouble. [chadmins]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

What the absolute hell? What makes this place so good is that there’s not people making idiot decisions at the top. This is an idiot decision. Plus side of the fediverse is vanishing.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424687

Uh, @lwadmin@lemmy.world … what’s up with the banning going on in this thread? I noticed on a.lemmy.org that someone was labeled “banned” and their comment was simply “Ight, I’m out”

The mod note was “Let us help you”.

There are more similarly weak (spiteful?) bans that certainly don’t seem to be at a standard for a ban. “Litterally 1984” was another one. Is that all it takes to be banned here?

Edit: Many (all?) the users I referenced as banned are now unbanned from the site, but now banned from this community. :marseyban:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422473

Please make announcements on lemmy instead of exclusively on discord moving forward. That is the biggest issue here, the lack of public transparency. Such a decision affects all instances, not just lemmy.world and making it publicly known is important

This was a misunderstanding from one of the team members. It has since been discussed and will not happen again. Lemmy.World and this announcement community is our primary platform, [chadmin]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421280

And once again we have people thinking that the instance owners would have to discuss everything they want to do with them and get the approval of everyone. It’s already great that they’re making announcements instead of doing it silently until people notice on their own. Plus, it’s not hard to make an account elsewhere if you don’t like it here. I doubt you’re restricted to this single instance.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424187

Ight, I’m out

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421940

Surely there is a discussion to be had around what is and isn’t allowed, there are plenty of subreddits discussing piracy without dolirect links that are playing within the rules.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420730

fucking hell, its time to leave lemmy.world, you are no better than reddit :marseysnoo:

Says the redditor

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422227

What is the legal theory being used here?

People chatting about piracy is now a crime in US? I thought the crime was uploading or downloading copyrighted content…

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421667

Lovely this happened because someone complained after being banned from the piracy instance for being a transphobic asshole. :marseytransplushie3:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421151

Yea, I’m leaving. Not as a protest, I just want access to something without caring if devs like it or not.

All hail Piracy!

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421558

Well said! I think the entire LW community would prefer a heads up for major actions. It’s understandable that piracy could lead to liability issues which none of us want. Thanks for giving us a run down.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420912

Is it a liability when the discussion happened outside of lemmy.world?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421575

Deleting lemmy now I guess as well [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424715

Wtf? I’m leaving.

Is there a way to migrate a community? [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2428100

I’m sure this comment will receive plenty of hate, but I’m really struggling to understand why piracy seems to get so staunchly defended by seemingly everyone here. Piracy is stealing. It is morally wrong. We can argue all day about how it’s a ‘victimless crime’ or how media conglomerates are greedy and deserve it, but at the end of the day there’s nothing that makes it ‘right’. With maybe a few exceptions, no one needs the things they’re pirating and it’s just childish to refuse to pay for content and go on pretending it’s a necessity. What needs to happen is more money going to the creators whose content we all enjoy so much.

There’s plenty of places to go where you can still interact with these communities, and we shouldn’t be surprised that a large and general instance wants to be distant from them. Personally I applaud the decision. [-6]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426834

Literally 1984 [-14]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421877

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3191712

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3302765

I'll start the popcorn machine 🍿

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2508036

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2508035

Hexbear thread

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Why is it wrong to be critical of western propaganda?

https://lemmy.world/comment/1962328

okay this is freaking wild:

We need a sub dedicated to bot building, trolling and brigading effectively. Screw morals, or decency. They’re tools that maintain the status quo.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1959011

I definitely appreciate the hesitation in defederation, but I’m in favor of defeding with both hexbear and lemmygrad.

I’ve seen more than enough “Stalin did nothing wrong posts” to know that discussions are pointless and would lead me only to frustration and a desire to drink.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958306

Freedom of speech does not constitute an obligation to listen.

Good for you!

Exactly. Freedom of speech != Freedom from social consequences :soyreddit:

Well, in a truly “free” society, yes freedom of speech would constitute freedom from “social consequences.” However, the United States, and in fact, no Earth government, is a truly free society. There are rules and laws that exist, thus restricting freedoms. However, specifically regarding freedom of speech as it is mentioned in US law, it specifically is a protection for citizens from retaliation by the US government, and does not cover interactions between citizens.

So I wouldn’t say “freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from social consequences,” but rather “freedom of speech does not include a requirement that others listen.” There are laws with regards to how other citizens can respond, including laws against assault and libel and such. But there is no law that says anyone must to listen to what you have to say simply because you have the freedom to say it. Thats quite a preposterous idea.

At least in the US, each citizen has the right to say what they choose within the constraints established by law, and to choose who they will listen to. [-43]

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958407

As an instance owner myself some of this is concerning. I understand why lemmy.world would want to defederate from them. I won’t defederate on my instance at this point, but if personal attacks start to happen or rules get broken, then it will be considered.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958492

I don’t agree with their sh*t and whatnot, but this move seems to me like “We will defederate you because your political beliefs are not the same as ours.” What a shame, Lemmyworld admins.

https://lemmy.world/comment/1958923

https://lemmy.world/post/2475933

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2433349

One chain of drama starts here, with TwoGems whining about the tankies which live rent free in his head. A tankie takes the bait, however:

Stupid god damn libs complain about tankies every time for these threads

this is just a teaser for the main event, however. Downthread, CCP hater Gamey remarks on lemmy's political character:

It’s facinating to see Lemmy go wild, kind of sad how many seem to support dictators with concentration camps and similar shit but also cool how many downvote them!

In response, Israel hater Blursty responds with this based and dramapilled take:

The only state with concentration camps in the real world is the USA and its colony in Palestine.

The drama continues on, worth reading if you have the time. Here's some other snippets from this post:

ryannathans who notices the insularity of lemlibs:

Can’t exist on same server as people with different ideology reeeee

and immediately gets accused of being a conservative 🤣

as well as attracting the ire of the above-mentioned TwoGems, who engages in misplaced anti-Turkish bigotry:

They’re like an infestation. Quick get the roach spray!

Stupid anarchists (but I repeat myself) have a stupid discussion over some dumb shit, idk, I didn't read it.

They miss out on the dumbest take award. Which I am proud to present to khajimak, for this banger of a comment, for complaining about being other people being redditpilled, before going on to engage in the most classic of redditor behaviors, moral grandstanding:

The entire thing sucks lol. Sorry you dipshits are so Reddit pilled you still only have one joke. Instead of saying lol he’s just like hitler lol he doesn’t like it when us dank memers refer to him as a cartoon character, you should share the numerous human rights atrocities he’s commited and call for his public execution

And that's a wrap folks!

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/2167629

cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/242655

3 day old post, but drama is drama

"i'm not having another plush.city moment so here's the fucking screenshots, read for yourself the outright hostility and bad faithb no alt text sorry i do not have the time, some other kind soul can do it or i'll do it at a later date (📎5) RE: holy shit contributors to iceshrimp are definitively hostile to firefish i had a fucking feeling this would happen and yep, it did"