huginn

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[–] huginn@feddit.it 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Although, I do think them providing “better” service is subjective.

Sure, better is always subjective

But there's a reason it's way more popular for short form video than anyone else despite coming after them.

It’s basically vine, right? Vine had an “explore” page, right?

Sorta. It's short form video but vine was locked to 7 seconds. TT is anything up to 3 minutes.

But beyond vine: the "for you page" of Tiktok is an algorithmic beast unlike anything else. It is miles better at training to your likes than anyone else manages.

It seems like their main money plan besides ads is shopping. That's been their major push for a year or so now.

With social media companies and ad tech in general it's safe to assume that they're all merciless and cutthroat. They will do anything to profile you better, short of the existentially illegal shit (IE the company would cease to exist if they were caught. Think breaking into your house).

That's why it's always hilarious when people tout whatsapp being e2e encrypted

[–] huginn@feddit.it 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Based on reviews I've read there are some issues but it's a small dev team (1 man shop iirc) and it's the best medieval city builder since Banished according to reviews.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 12 points 6 months ago

ikr - I 'm so mad I'll never be able to buy one

[–] huginn@feddit.it 14 points 6 months ago

Zuck isn’t an idiot

Nah, he definitely is.

He's just lucky & well connected.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 37 points 6 months ago

I was asked to relocate to Texas for a position when I was hired. I said no thanks and went to the NYC office instead.

I know I wasn't the only one to do this.

They were trying to hire in Austin and instead only found NYC talent. Tough break for them.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)

My point here is less that TikTok is totally cool with privacy (they're not)

It's that tiktok is just as invasive as all other mainstream social media but they provide a better service than any other social media.

That's it: They do more with the exact same.

You can drop instagram straight into that sentence and it reads the same. Except Facebook tracks you even when you don't have an account.

As soon as a user starts using Instagram, the company begins building a profile about them, including their interests, political leanings, sexuality, and every other variable that could impact the selection of videos they see.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Are you talking about the App Privacy page specifically?

Because that page is about as useful as "known to the State of California to cause cancer"

Any social media with advertising will have similar alerts as to what it might be collecting.

How would it be collecting that you might ask?

It's not on your phone: Your browser and your apps are sandboxed from each other. They cannot read from each other. It's a constant pain in the ass for session persistence, you end up having to use wonky nonce patterns to maintain sessions from app to browser & vice versa.

They're collecting it from advertising ids that are on your browser. It's the Google Ad Api - That's it.

Go ahead, look at Instagram or Youtube. They'll have the same laundry list of "Browsing history, Physical Address" etc.

TikTok isn't conjuring that from thin air - It's just that it, like any other advertising app, is using the publicly available data about you to advertise.

Again a side by side:

Which one is TikTok and which one is Instagram?

TikTok isn't doing anything that the other apps aren't also doing - The other apps are just fucking awful at knowing what you want to see.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Let's play a fun game:

Which of the following 2 screenshots is TikTok's permissions?

Is it the one that can prevent the phone from sleeping and runs at startup? The one that sends sticky broadcasts?

Or is it the one that accesses the AdId Api?

I'll give you a hint: I already told you which one it is.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 6 points 6 months ago

Then it's not a lawn

[–] huginn@feddit.it 4 points 6 months ago

It's worse when you tear down farmland and forests for suburbs.

Build our cities with sufficient storm sewers and public parks that can double as bioswales and fuck the lawn loving burbs.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago (11 children)

The sheer amount of privileges TikTok requires on your device

The fuck are you on about?

Tiktok has a total of 0 granted permissions from me.

By default it has the same perms as other similar apps: Google Advertising ID.

That's it.

You can't opt out of that: it's Google.

If you give it a fuck load of perms that's your fault. By default it has less access than Discord.

You're just parroting bullshit you've heard elsewhere.

I'm a professional Android developer: Tiktok isn't requesting anything strange. It asks for camera, audio, and storage access when you record a video. That's exactly what you'd need to ask for: nothing more or less.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah I've deleted Facebook and affiliated products since 2017.

Google social never made sense to me but even just for content YouTube does a terrible job showing me what I want to see.

Tiktok had honed in on things I found funny or interesting within an hour of picking it up. And I'm not talking mainstream sports or TV type content, I'm talking niche sub communities and creators with less than 1k followers.

Idk how they're doing it (besides the obvious data collection) but they've got a well tuned algo.

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