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Exactly, it's the whole "black lives matter" vs "all lives matter" thing all over again.

None of them attacked innocent civilians in Cambodia: Kissinger bombed innocent civilians in Cambodia. And then after it became known that Pol Pot was a genocidal lunatic, the west started supporting Pol Pot AFTER it became known what he did until his death, while the communists attacked and deposed Pol Pot.

It's always the same: the west murders indiscriminately people in the global south and then act all innocent when this radicalizes the survivors.

Edit: you also mention Vietnam. What Kissinger did there was also monstrous.

Kissinger bombed hundreds of thousands of innocent Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian civilians, and they gave him a fucking peace prize because he finally stopped.

He is responsible for Pol Pot's rise to power so he's indirectly to blame for Pol Pot's regime. You can't bomb a country to hell and not be responsible for the aftermath.

What's your point? Are you saying that there are always people who commit genocides and these people become communist after they read Das Kapital?

Communism's main rival is capitalism. If you want to make a fair comparison, you need to include genocides committed by capitalist countries too. And capitalism has been around for a fair bit longer. Not making excuses for communist countries, just putting things a little more in context.

To be fair, I said people "who call themselves communist".

Communism and socialism is popular, if you are a populist, an often used strategy is pretending to be the popular thing. Hitler pretended to be a socialist, until he purged all socialists. Pol Pot pretended to be a communist, until it no longer suited him and he had them killed.

Why is it almost always the people who call themselves communists?

Because you're ignoring genocides committed by others?

What about:

• native Americans
• Irish
• Bangladesh
• Holocaust
• Armenia

Just to name a few famous examples.

Besides, Pol Pot wasn't much of a communist, as soon as he started the genocide, he lost support from other communist nations, he became a staunch anti-communist and got the support of the USA even more than a decade after the communists deposed him.

I'm not going to argue the holodomor with you, but even there, the case is not as simple as you think.

On top of that, the existence of bigger genocides doesn't stop making this less of a genocide.

Yeah, why don't they just let the Israelis commit genocide them peacefully?