if someone chooses to be on a platform and they don't get any benefit from it then they shouldn't be on it.
The platform owner(s) definitely have motivations and/or an agenda. Safe to assume the owner is a stakeholder and therefore is not guaranteed to be hands off forever.
Both of these are besides the point. The question is, why do people stay on a platform?
Centralised social media did, and is, doing extremely well by most metrics.
Such as censorship (everywhere). shadowbanning (X), ownership by an egomaniac slyster (X), blue badges (X), and being ganged up on (reddit). i'm ignoring platforms for addicts such as tiktok, youtube, and instagram.
Which matrix are we ignoring in order come to the conclusion legacy social media is doing well? Be specific.
we’re not missed
You are right.
At the same time, those platforms are not providing enough value for users to stick around.
i'm a milk tea addict. Carry around cinnamon and nutmeg. And hang out on github.
These are horrible vices. But no excuse for having divergent opinions.
Telegram is fine.
Signal will be gone tomorrow and you'll lose your network. Moving networks from one platform to another is impossible. So we end up creating new networks.
Currently i'm making a network of Python coders i've collaborated with. The communication medium is not consistent nor ideal.
Hate email with a passion. So of course most the communication is going over plain text email. Tried pushing for communication on plain text mastodon.
Your welcome. Use it in good health. And please excuse my colorful prose.
There is many many comments on Telegram bleeding the phone number. And only one comment saying that doesn't have to be the case.
You are right but
we like doing the wrong thing over and over again. And being surprised, each and every time, when it turns out to be wrong. Never picking up onto the repeating simple pattern.
1111111111111 what's the next number ... errrr Signal! That's it you got it. Good job.
Embrace the idiocracy!
This is why Telegram is awesome.
Eventually you will come around and realize how hopeless humanity is and embrace that it is well beyond hope.
And then you will have a larger network and enjoy each and every one of them.
Then talk about coding. Non-techies curl up into a ball and die slightly inside as they run for the exits.
Highest form of encryption possible.
Try it
And if that is not enough to kill someones spirit and make them beg for mercy, recite random sections of the GNU Make documentation out of context and watch them go into convolutions.
I was sold on threats and coersion. Lets do more of that
The real world, with non-tech people needs solutions that are easy, fast and as close to foolproof as possible.
Nope. Grandma gets a smartphone
Meaning they are hopeless and it's impossible for them to emulate a techie.
It's a fools errand.
Just stop trying to pretend Grandma is something more than completely unimportant and forgettable and hopeless and more likely than not merely a pest.
I'm so tired of entertaining Grandmas.
This 1 + 1 = 2 logic is boring. It's trying to escape out of a wet paper bag over and over again. Whatever your 1 + 1 = 2 logic is their is another guy who can drive a bus staight thru it. Every single time.
In a year from now you will find out you are completely mistaken and just repeating nonsense. Every freak'n time.
Just for once, do the wrong thing. Make the wrong choice on purpose.
Instead of seeing never ending red flags. Today see purple flags. And tomorrow orange. Cuz why do flags always have to be red?
You can be right or you can have fun.
Do the wrong thing sometimes. Live a little.
Signal pretends not to.
I prefer Telegram's honesty.
We are Telegram and we are here to help. And to make it more fun we will send all your communications to Russia for a change.
Oh man! Where do i sign up /nosarc
You are right. But just not a fun person capable of seeing the humor in this.
Everyone is listing the features of both and not choosing wrong on purpose!
I like sending all my conversations to Russia. It makes me laugh.
As long as i have someone wasting their time trying to snap out of their sleepy deer in headlights stupor after listening to a coder talk about coding.
I also love doing this on facebook messenger too.
Everyone worries about censorship. One thing that is never censored is a coder talking about coding. Cuz the DEI hire head explodes after one second of listening to that.
Try it! It's magical.
that's actually a really good argument for not using either.
Taking a step back discussing shells seems like a never ending hell loop.
Sometimes the only way to win is not to play the game.
Use python and stop being stuck in the distant past.