luftruessel

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Who doesn't love opening a loot crate? Not the gambling stuff (well it's still kind of gambling), but the ones in game. The ones that give shitty loot and guns you don't know how to play. The ones that make you end up with a bullet in your head 50% of the time because you drive into the middle of nowhere to get them.

Ok this will not be about stupid PUBG references, but thoughts and images of the process of making a "PUBG loot crate" for a friend of mine. For everyone unaware, it looks something like this:

in game crate

Goal:

  • build a small loot crate that vaguely resembles a PUBG loot crate
  • make it from wood (3D printing would have been an option here, but I just don't like the look and feel too much for such a project)
  • improve my wood finishing & painting skills

Not goals:

  • make an exact copy of the in game loot crate from PUBG
  • spend tons of time and money on it
  • get 50 new tools

The box

While making a wooden box is indeed a skill to learn, having it heavily painted and modified made me not want to spend too much time on it. So I just bought one and sanded it smooth (not enough).

bought box

To add some depth to it, I went to add a bottom and some ridges to resemble the corrugated panels of metal containers. The ridges were cut by hand and everything was sanded (almost enough) before glue up. I used normal wood glue and clamps, no nails or screws. For alignment I had done some marking with pencil and it ended up fine. For a more precise project, I would have made small spacers and nailed everything in place with a nail gun (which I don't have). Getting rid of the glue with a wet cloth was crucial here, because hand sanding all the inside edges would not have been fun. Some wood filler was used to even out small imperfections, but I should have used even more here. In the finished product I can see where I did a good job and where I got lazy.

ridges

Each vertical piece was glued on as one, just because that seemed easier. Of course I had to split the box again, which was easy enough with a hand saw.

split box

The paint

After the glue up, paint was up next. 3 coats of primer went on with sanding in between. 180 and later on 240. It still showed some wood pattern at this point, but I would not know how to improve this. Not buy cheap ass primer? Sand more? Even more coats?

After that, I sprayed it with red paint and also lightly sanded with a 320 grid sanding sponge. This ended up looking just about how I wanted, but could still have been a little smoother. Painting is hard. Also I need to build some painting triangles, because it got stuck to the underground twice.

painted red box

The finish

Last paint related thing was the rough look. With nothing else on hand, I dabbed on acrylic paint. It did not seem to stick in the beginning so I went all in. To an extend that I thought I had ruined the piece when it was all dry. Looked like a cheap ass camo clothing pattern designed by a 3yo (or something even worse).

camo look

First I tried to carefully remove only the top coat of acrylic, but this quickly hurt the lower coats until even the primer showed. So I just went to town with all my sanding paper and even a paint scraper. Took way more time than I wanted, but at least it turned out ok. A sanding sponge came in clutch here for reaching all the crevices. Definitely a worthwhile 'tool' to have. This is the part where I would be interested in other approaches to achieve this look - something I have to look into.

used look

The extra bits

For the straps I just ordered some 10mm wide nylon band. Could have payed more attention here: The straps are not simply cut and go, but I had to get out the sewing machine to attach the plastic bits.

straps

Also simply no one seems to own one of these blue IKEA bags anymore, so I had to cut up some old apron for the blue top. Not exactly what I was looking for, but got it close enough.

The resume

Fun project, that of course took longer than expected. My learning with the paint is once again: Take your time! I think I would have needed to spend more time on almost every step to get that 'perfect' finish. But for the first time it felt achievable with my equipment on hand. That's encouraging! Since, on this project, everything was roughed up anyway, it did not feel like a failure. The rest was pretty straight forward and it was a really enjoyable project with minimal space and tool requirements.

finished box

[–] luftruessel@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks :)

Interesting thought, but I never considered it. It's not for me but I am sure it would have some benefit to someone. This would make for some unique cages for sure - have not seen anything like that out there yet.

[–] luftruessel@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I was wondering: is there something like cross posting? Would'be liked to post it in a bikepacking community as well, but the only way I found was recreate the same post. Or make a post with just a link I guess

[–] luftruessel@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like stated above: I have no idea what I'm doing, so take this with a grain of salt.

Regarding welding, I am lucky enough to have someone close by that does it for a day job. Therefor I have the chance to get some educated input, as well as access to professional equipment. This is how I 'learned' MIG welding. I am sure there are courses around (at least where I live, but you would have to google that yourself), but I just went ahead with a project in mind and it worked out. In contrast to wood, you get plenty of chances to 'make it right'. The saying "filler and paint make me the welder I ain't" has some truth to it. Just prepare for lots of grinding and sanding and you should be alright.

With all that said: I don't like welding very much. It smells and I would always make sure to have proper ventilation. Also make sure you are well covered to avoid burns from weld spatter.

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This year I did my first bike packing trip. For starting out I had rented some equipment, but with the goal of doing more trips in the future, getting some bags of my own was clearly on the list. With the idea of using panniers for my main storage, I wanted to add some fork bags to balance out the weight a little. Also they are the least obstructive (other than frame bag maybe) from my POV. Somewhat enjoying DIY, the idea of designing the cages myself grew on me.

What this is

Some insights and thoughts on the process of designing and making some aluminium cargo cages for a bike.

What this isn't

A guide on how to design and make aluminium cargo cages for a bike. I have no professional training on anything I did here. This is my first time doing something like this.

Designing

Sketch

After making some sketches on paper, I quickly jumped into 3D modelling on the PC.

The software

The software I choose was OpenSCAD. Reasoning was that I like open source software and I don't know any CAD software anyway. With it being a non-interactive tool, I hoped to somewhat make use of my coding knowledge/background. You write a script and the tool compiles it into a 3D model.

This however, did not work out very well. Going into it without much of a plan, I ended up with a very confusing file with loads of duplicate code and lots of guessing when trying to figure out dimensions. This was not the fault of the tool, but only my own. Not saying I'll never go back to it, but for the next job I will try some more interactive tooling. Some more structure and thought out process would benefit any tool however, so that's a learning I'll take with me.

The looks

Hard requirements were the screw positions for mounting to the fork and space for some straps where the bag is attached. In the middle of designing I noticed, that I might want some material running from the screw attachment points across the whole width of the piece (this might not have been required since the 3mm aluminium I used was plenty strong).

The whole design evolved around these requirements and some hexagons I wanted to add. Everything was kept symmetric and I tried to pick up the angles from the hexagons in the other angled pieces.

For sizing, I tested my dimensions on some cardboard cutouts and went with what felt right.

Finished cage design

The issues

  • The lower part was meant to be bent around and then welded at the seams. However I failed to provide additional material for the bending, therefor it was cut of and completely welded in the final product.
  • The lower part is too wide. Instead of taking a second to think about it, I just kept the lower piece wide with the idea of grinding of the excess. I should have made the diagonal piece of the notch the same length as the vertical line it will get welded to.
  • The straps of my chosen bags do not line up perfectly with the cutouts on the cage. There is enough space to make it work and not look super off, but it would be smarter to get the 'target bag' first.

Also I think it turned out a little like any cage you can buy in a shop. Wish I had made it a little more unique, maybe carry the hexagon idea along the edges...

Fabricating

Having access to at least some of the tools required for fabrication made the project seem somewhat reasonable in the first place. I would not know how to go about this, if you don't have a welder (other than designing a part that does not require welding).

Laser cutting

The whole idea heavily evolved around the idea of using a laser to cut my model from some aluminium sheet. However the laser I planned to use was not available anymore by the time the design was finished. No big deal I thought, there are ordering services for just about anything online. Which there are. But many of them ask a heavy fee for low part counts. To a level that would shut down the whole idea. It took quite some searching until I found someone willing to do the job for a feasible price. Had I not found a laser, filling and cutting with a saw would have been my last resort. Luckily it didn't come to that.

Other than the design issues mentioned above, it turned out just like I wanted!

Welding

You should find someone else to tell you about TIG welding. On the photo you can see the lower base that turned out too wide and never got ground off. Also the lower base that was cut off instead of bend due to missing clearance.

Welded cage

Painting

3 base coats, 3 top coats of matt black. Some deburing beforehand would have helped the final look as well. I always underestimate how much all these details show up after painting.

Finished cage

Bags

For bags, I decided on Cube ACID PACK PRO 3 (which are 3 liter bags). Even though I bought these, this was not the super easy part. Going into this project my thought was that it will be super easy to find fitting bags. But I had to do quite some digging to find something I liked. 3 liters per site are plenty for my setup, since I just want to spread some weight forward. I have seen these cages used with 5 liter bags, which worked fine as well. The straps do not line up perfectly with the cage, but there is enough wiggle room to make it work.

Cage with bag

Final thoughts

It was a fun project and I will hopefully get to enjoy these cages for a long time. Without having done most of the things required to tackle this project, it took me quite some time to do. But I learned a lot and will surely go into my next CAD/metal/fabrication project with more of a plan!

I hope someone can get something out of my post. This checklist should help if you consider doing a similar project (maybe even any DIY project at all)

Don't do this if you

  • want to save money
  • need some cages quickly

Do this if you

  • enjoy making stuff!