nondescripthandle

joined 8 months ago

Theres this dazzling student of Hegel that has a few novel ideas about just that. You may have heard of him . . .

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can't say I support going as far bans or punitive action for revealing your side, but I absolutly agree that people use it to speed by all your arguments, concerns, comments, and just berate you until you do exactly what they do. I could get behind punishing people who bully or harass someone into disclosing their side thoguh, because thats textbook harassment (some Americans just call that 'voter outreach' thoguh)

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you know you can talk about things without demanding you know who someone is voting for, or is that new information to you?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And they wonder why it's devolved into tribalism while shaming everyone who doesn't cheer for their team loud enough. The hypocrisy is deafening.

Why? Has it not dawned on you that near half of the people lying about their votes are voting for Kamala, should they be ashamed too? Or do you only think Trump voters are lying?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Not every person who tunes you out is going to be a bigot. If you want to imagine that the only people who are upset with rhetoric like yours are bigots, don't be surprised when only bigots engage you. You're complaining about problems you yourself are furthering, plus tell me do you think alienating voters helps or hurts your candidate, because that's what your rhetoric does. Don't think your actions can't influence people to stay home, you're great at fostering apathy through alienation. Hope your okay with that too.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

They're not ashamed, they just don't want to deal with people like you. How do you intend on reaching people who feel the need to lie to you? How does fostering a climate where lying is necessary to protect their peace effect the already horrible political climate? Or are you also okay with your actions costing your candidate votes and worsening the political climate too?

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Im pretty sure comments like that is exactly why these kids are lying about their votes, pardon me for reading the article.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

And why is it necessary to disclose who you're voting for to do any of that? In fact I'd argue not disclosing who you vote for makes these conversations easier because you cant just instantly jump onto us vs them mentality and tune someone out before listening.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (18 children)

Compared to the enlightened discussions we have as things are? Social media made talking about politics more ubiquitous than ever and it only made things worse. Also this may surprise you but you can talk politics without disclosing who you vote for.

I agree but you still have to try of course, gotta protect who we can.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Good. I long for the day 'who are you voting for' is normally met with 'shut the fuck up'

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