Not the first time I've heard this bullshit either,. It's a surprisingly common talking point among centrists, even though it's so blatantly stupid. Oh, the Democrats are going to the right because the left won't vote for them? Well, the right won't fucking vote for them either, so why are they still moving right? Why is courting the right a reasonable and smart thing to do, while courting the left is dumb and bad? Especially when they keep courting the right and they keep fucking losing?
I was about to downvote until I saw the community.
I mean, realistically, they'd adopt leftist talking points and then abandon them after they won, like they did in 2008.
Tim Kaine. A pro-Wall Street centrist.
I don't think you can point to one specific thing that got Biden elected. Covid mismanagement was a huge part of it, but student debt relief and other progressive proposals that Bernie pushed the campaign into played a big part as well. Even with Covid, I think there's a good chance that Biden would have lost if he'd run the same kind of centrist campaign that Harris and Clinton ran.
I mean, yeah, I think that's unironically who they want to listen to. They're waiting for someone to tell them why the choices the party made were actually good and smart and how all the left punching they did was actually justified. I'm not sure they're going to get it, though; even the Pod Save America guys sounded on the verge of some self-reflection. But who knows, maybe they'll blame Russian disinformation campaigns again and put their heads back in the sand.
Maybe they are, but as it turns out, getting them to show up and vote for you is actually kinda important. So maybe she should have done that.
Well, maybe they should have run a campaign of anti-genocide, not less genocide, especially because genocide is a fucking boolean value.
Yeah, it only voters were smart like the Harris campaign, who ran the exact same strategy Hillary ran in 2016 and lost by even more. That was the smart move, right?
Whose job was it to win the election, the voters or the candidate? The Harris team looked at the polling, said no, and lost. Put the blame where it fucking belongs.
So this aged great, huh?
Yes, and to be fair, i think his failure wasn't due to a lack of desire. Biden is an institutionalist, past the point of logic and reason. My understanding is that they can procedurally remove the filibuster without a super majority at the beginning of each session, but he failed to consider eliminating it until late in his presidency. He also still refuses to entertain expanding the court; I know he couldn't do it, but if they had any sense at all, they'd be running on it. He has to much, "respect," for these institutions to do anything to change them, even as they crumble in the face of fascism.