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I think when most people look at the clock, they just remember what time the shape means.

When I was young I remember encountering a clock with roman numerals and I was pretty scared of it, but it helped me learn to tell time more robustly.

Since then, I've also seen clocks without any numbers or dash marks on them at all. You just look at the clock face and get the approximate time.

So I don't think most people are doing multiplication to read the clock, I think they're just recalling what time that shape indicates, sometimes one hand at a time.

Maybe that's why drawing clocks is a test of memory for screening alzheimers patients.

EDIT: just reread the thread. I missed the part where the multiplication for the minute hand was something you learned in elementary school. That makes sense.

I also remember 144 being particularly pleasing. Also because it was the biggest number on the table.

I for sure learned the 11 times tables first and best. Up to 10.

Hmm. I guess the definition of orthogonal is the same on one axis, but different on another?

In that case, I would say that Dungeons and Dragons is orthogonal to bingo, along the "game of chance" axis.

I'm having trouble making friends. There is one guy sort of near me and we do things here and there, but he and his wife are about to move. Most of my other friends live far away.

I don't have a lot in common with the people I work with, or live near, and I don't have much energy to do things outside of work. There is more that I'd say but I'm acutely aware / paranoid that some ai tool is reading all of our comments and building profiles on us. I'm trying to build a better life and find more communities where I feel welcome, but it's slow going. Maybe that explains it somewhat?

Maybe you could tell us how you made 5 close friends in a new country.

You are dead wrong if you think there is zero comparison.

I am trying to browse voyager and listen to a podcast at the same time and it's such a shit show.

I guess it makes sense that they're natural allies.

To me I don't see them defending 4chan at all. I see you defending Twitter.

I mean, maybe? I think most people just browsed /b or whatever

Why are you so mad lol

These were humanities classes, where I'd pick up some nuance in the lecture/ discussion i had missed. We had textbooks but there was a lot of stuff in the lectures that weren't in the text.