stonerboner

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[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What does the issue we are talking about (TikTok’s data harvesting) have to do with healthcare? Unless that’s where you get your magic crystal healing tips lmao

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We could also feed the poor, house the homeless, heal the sick etc. we could ask why any law regarding healthcare, housing, nutrition doesn’t fix the issue, but that’s a whole other can of worms.

The FTC is putting in work this administration, and are poised to bring back Net Neutrality (obligatory Fuck Ajit Pai). This is a huge step towards protecting all Americans, so I think you’re confusing this issue (adversarial governments harvesting our data) with the larger issue of domestic policy (which will be much harder to tackle).

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I bet less than 2% of users use VPNs. They won’t have much content, if any, from domestic creators. They’ll only be interacting with the other 2% of American users along with foriegn content.

I don’t think people with enough brain cells to use VPN will are China’s target demographic, and I don’t think VPN users will constitute a fraction of activity you are suggesting they will.

I really like how you point out the danger of the Cambridge Analytica incident, but then bemoan trying to keep data harvesting away from a foreign adversary.

Domestic data policy drastically needs an overhaul, but we have to start somewhere. Also, Cambridge Analytica had a fucking shitstain president/administration running interference because they benefited directly from it. Glad we have accountability this time around.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s almost like TikTok was given a chance to prove our data doesn’t flow to the Chinese government, and TikTok decided to exit the market than prove where their data flows.

But sure, let’s just pretend we randomly forced them out with an executive overreach lmao

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

You can literally watch the congressional hearings yourself.

Here’s one video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhKX8zF2FQw

I watched it live, so I don’t know how complete or edited this recording of the hearing is. Talk to you in 5.5 hours after you watch the thing you requested.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Taking longer than it should.

Any other completely unrelated questions you’d like to ask?

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (14 children)

It’s almost like an action can protect people and enrich elites at the same time. Explain how the American public isn’t better of keeping their personal data away from the CCP. Interested to see how you think this doesn’t protect the public at all from an adversarial foreign government.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (14 children)

I disagree. I listened when it was presented to Congress. I read a good amount of the data justifying the required transfer. If you don’t think this bill protects the public, there really is no reasoning with you.

Someone will get a cut specifically because TikTok chooses not to prove where their data flows. They had a choice, and chose to exit the market.

But sure, you can frame it like we forced them to leave the market, which isn’t the case. They could have verified their data flow and remained if they were not abusing it.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

No doubt, but accountability starts somewhere, so why have a problem with this? Why not celebrate and then demand equitable action domestically?

“I’m not defending TikTok. I’m just bemoaning action being taken against them because bad things happen with other companies!” Not a great look.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

You’re extremely dull if youre suggesting I don’t know data is abused left and right all over the place. But if TikTok is so bad it’s can’t even fit within our abusive system, it deserves to transfer or exit.

You’re missing the forest for the trees.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 49 points 6 months ago (53 children)

I’d counter that basing your livelihood on an app that harvests your and your viewers data for an adversarial government known to use this kind of data in psyops isn’t a sound business idea.

In fact, I’d say this bill actually protects American users who have been using the app.

If TikTok can’t prove that they use our data responsibly, and refuse to do so to the point of just leaving the market, we are all better off. Another company will fill that void and content creators have endless options to move to.

I don’t think “but people need to make money while our data is harvested and provided to a government that uses it against us” is a great argument.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I clearly stated it was a supervised seven year old pretty early on, yet you just kept on about it as if I was some negligent parent lol. Not sure if it was you or the one of the other you’s in the thread who called me “dystopian” lmao.

Ya’ll could also reply with civility either way. I know it’s a lot to expect of people on the internet, but jeeze man. There are much better hills to die on

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