thatirishguyyy

Almost like... it was staged

User name checks out because this isn't the flex you think it is.

Only one college, Evergreen State College, has "agreed" so far to divest any holdings linked with Israel. A few others, like Brown and Northwestern University, have simply said that they will disclose their investment exposure to Israel at a later time.

And Evergreen's memorandum that was released by the school simply stated that the student encampment will end in exchange for the school looking into its investments and possibly divesting from Israel. ONCE MORE: Looking into & possibly divesting

These are what they call stall tactics.

And stop pretending the protestors didn't spray paint free gaza, free palestine and intifada this and that all over the walls in the library. That's pointless vandalism, not protesting.

It is obvious that you truly have no idea what you are talking about nor have you been inside of a NY jail in any capacity. The police dont keep people from making phone calls, despite your this isnt the movies line of reasoning. It isn't a conspiracy to silence the protestors, I promise. I'm also sure they would have reported on that when they spoke to the reporter so we know they weren't prevented from making phone calls due to any security reason or that would have been reported on as well.

As to your statement, yes, phones calls are subject to reasonable restrictions related to security but, No, they don't arbitrarily prevent you from using a phone. There are actual phone kiosks in NYC jails. Hell, all jail phone calls have been free since 2019 (Intro 0741, pass by NYC council) from 7am to 11pm.

Then there is New York State Assembly Bill 2023-A6484that allows inmates in state and local correctional facilities to make free, confidential phone calls to attorneys and legal service providers.

Furthermore, Chapter 11-A, Part 2, Title H, Article 120, Section 90, Subsection 8 of New York Criminal Procedural Law is the literal law that entitles anyone arrested in the state of New York to communicate by phone. (Link)

In New York, if you are arrested or detained, you are legally entitled to a phone call. But please, go ahead and argue.

Dear Reddit users: downvotes because you dislike facts (with links to state sites) don't mean anything on Lemmy. Sry, not sry.

Pointless vandalism is still pointless, but at least the antiwar protests in the US were by US citizens and were primarily about opposition to US involvement in a conflict US soldiers had no business being in because there were no US assets at stake.

These protesters have unrealistic expectations and goals. Just look at the divesting demands. Due to their age, very few of these college kids understand the reality of where the money they want divested is/going/coming from. Direct investments rarely reflect the full scope of a college's portfolio. Divest from Google, Apple, and Nike then but they won't ditch their smart phones or shoes.

I thought they would have learned about this stuff in college.

First, the point is that the only information comes from a student--journalist (who attends the same University mentioned) who interviewed the two teachers feom the same University who spoke to the students who didn't like jail.

Secondly, would it surprise you that everyone in jail has access to a phone?

Why do so many take articles like this at face value?

The students who were arrested and sent to jail reported to the two staff members afterwards who then reported to a student-reporter who attends the same University and is a protestoer herself and none of this is biased? All of this is third-person and we need more sources other than the students themselves.

Everyone who leaves jail complains about the treatment. But now they can now go back to protesting peacefully because it is their right and I'm okay with that, just the vandalism.

Edit: are we really pretending that a student isn't an adult? They are adults and not children, right? Where are they supposed to put grown adult college students? Student jail?

Edit 2: Gosh, we really don't like pointing out that they were privileged University students that have probably never seen a jail cell and probably. Even the journalist who wrote this is a student from City University.

The conditions we’re hearing about are inhumane,” Mitra told The Intercept. “They take away the dignity of every person in there.”

That's ironic.