theshatterstone54

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but I want to distance myself from it so bad, specifically because of Vaxry. Can't wait for RiverWM 0.4.0 or Qtile with SceneFX, or COSMIC when it gets there, or when DWL gets mature enough and gets all these features as stable patches, or just... anything.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Difficult to say. For starters, we can't know with certainty the full list of countries that were affected. We don't know all the ways countries were affected. There's so much we don't know that it's really impossible to say.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Iced is the GUI toolkit. Smithay is good for diversity, so it isn't just wlroots.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

You don't need a compatibility layer. It just runs. Now for the theming, getting GTK themed is built-in under Theming->Experimental while QT theming is not there yet.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I've been using Eternity and I like it but it doesn't mean you would.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I don't completely disagree with him on some points. Here's what I have to say:

Cosmic is not my direct competitor

Okay, I know what I just said but I completely disagree with this. COSMIC has tiling (sort of), has pretty much all the features of a tiling wm, is more user friendly to configure than Hyprland, is on Wayland so "modern", and has animations, rounded corners, etc so it's in direct competition with the main thing Hyprland brings to the table.

My first impressions with COSMIC were terrible

Umm.... alpha much? Or should I remind you of the sorry mess Hyprland was in its own early days?

I've seen a few posts / videos that criticize Cosmic get downvoted and bullied to hell, especially on Reddit.

It's Reddit. It's either tribalism or hivemind. Pick your poison. Eather way, the result is as you describe.

All those quotes (and those are just a few) are at best running on "hopes and prayers" and not the actual experience. 

Man, I kinda wish nobody believed in Hyprland now. Those same points could have been applied to Hyprland but people believed and here we are. It almost sounds as if you're jealous of the team, or resources, or pace of development they have?

Someone might say "oh what are we supposed to say then", to which I say: simple. Say what you see. Claiming this is the next coming of God will hurt it more than help it. 

Okay, I kinda agree. I think it's important not to be brutal to them. They have written not just a WM like you, they've written an f-ing Desktop! Apps, settings, and even the entire GUI library it's all written on, and based it on a completely new Compositor library, smithay, which they've also had to heavily contribute to. What you did can be done by any one person with enough drive, motivation and knowledge (except the independence rewrite, that would take an absolute doofus who can't simply apologise and treat humans normally. I often find myself hating people too, but I still give them the benefit of the doubt and a basic level of respect until they lose it. Maybe Hyprland could have been a leading force, a representative for tiling WMs in wlroots, pushing innovation forward and providing another point of view, but you fucking blew it. But I digress.)

Where do you go Cosmic? And why would you want to? So far, all I can see is three reasons: Rust, Tiling, "We'll implement what GNOME won't"

Is that any different to why other DEs exist? GNOME exists cuz simple, default, polished, GTK. KDE Plasma is powerful, modern, QT. Cinnamon is simple, more customisable, GTK. XFCE is minimal, customisable, GTK. COSMIC is Rust, Iced, Smithay, Tiling, customisable, Wayland-only (and thus Wayland-first), "We'll implement what GNOME won't". The way I see it, COSMIC has a lot going for it. But even if it didn't, wouldn't Tiling, A new voice for Wayland, and the first Wayland-only DE be enough?

Okay, I think I'll end it here, because I'm devolving into cheap bickering and personal insults. But what I see is that Vaxry is likely jealous and is trying to undermine what COSMIC has achieved.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago

Now how do I do Server side decorations?

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think Qtile works off XWayland. IIRC, it's a proper rewrite using pywlroots.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of them are particularly complex

Points to AwesomeWM and its lua lain libraries that will all need to be rewritten for Wayland.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 42 points 2 months ago

If I was a lecturer/professor, I'd totally do that.

But also, don't forget to use adblock!

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that why he only attacks at the end of the year lol?

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks interesting. Any info on whether Excel Macros work for it?

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