tocopherol

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[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not so complex, to make meat, it requires growing crops and then raising the animal. If you cut out the raising animal part and eat the crops you have partaken in less death of animals. We all live with the conditions we have been put into though, I don't blame anyone or think anyone is pathetic.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's weird the parents that are complicit in this, like how do they justify it in their mind? I had a girlfriend in high school whose mom encouraged her to post risque photos online in 8th grade, taking photos of her with her thong out posing seductively etc, she wanted her daughter to be hot. Maybe the parents are trying to relive their youth vicariously.

But you are right, worse than the random parents encouraging this, the platforms knowingly encourage this sexualization of children because they know the ad revenue it can generate.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

That's unfortunate to hear, I don't know the context of your experience so I can't make any assumption, but it is just funny to me how much I see comments like that about hexbear, when I have found it to be very welcoming to diverse views (aside from pro-liberalism or fascism), and plenty of other anarchists on there agree. I wouldn't have been drawn towards it if it weren't for so many people saying they were 'MAGA tankies' etc.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From the former perspective, this already is a antisemitic argument because it delegitimizes the existence of a safe space for Jews.

I thought more about this idea, and I agree that Jewish people are historically extremely persecuted such that they probably should have an independent nation as a safe space. But why does it have to be at the cost of so many lives and peoples homes? Massacre and displacement of Arab people is not a good way to create a safe haven for Jewish people, and having it continue for decades certainly increases antisemitism, in turn making Jewish people less safe.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

I agree we need to be careful that we don't enable the sort of mass murder of Jews that has happened throughout history, being from Germany I'm sure you are especially careful to ensure something like the Holocaust doesn't happen again.

I don't agree that calling Israel a colony is antisemitic, it was formed as and still operates as a settler-colony. This conflict isn't black and white, but in war there is nearly always an aggressor against the other, the culpability is rarely even. Israel, the aggressor, with support from untouchably powerful militaries, and the victim, Palestine, whose homeland was forcibly taken by said militaries.

I don't see the de-legitimization of the state of Israel as antisemitic because the state is not legitimate by any recognized standard, and continues seizing territory in opposition to international treaties, annexing Palestinian land even in the last few weeks. I'm sure antisemitic people could use the BDS movement to mask their true views but I haven't seen that connection in the US. There are plenty of Jewish people in the US who call for boycotting Israel and giving Palestine full self-determination.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You are incorrect about hexbear. I am an anarchist and post there almost exclusively, I have seen more vigorous debate there than any other left space. Hexbear actually allows proper arguments and doesn't even have downvotes.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

How is BDS antisemitic? Maybe there is antisemitism associated with it's movement in Germany but that hasn't been my experience in the US. Though any pro-Palestine group here is constantly called antisemitic by Americans that support Israel.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The conditions that led to them attacking on the 7th are very different than what they would be if Palestine had proper self-determination. But true, it will take a while to heal divisions.

People don't want endless violence, there have been many periods where Jewish and Arab people lived together peacefully. I agree though, a process like this would probably need third-party peacekeepers, an independent coalition could form to help protect people in the region and prevent terrorism, like the groups of states in the region that have come together to fight ISIS.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You'd be surprised to learn there is more than Hamas in Palestine, and the majority of people there just want their families to be able to return and have their land back that was stolen by western imperial powers, and then further taken by Israel over time. Getting rid of the Israeli state wouldn't have to mean kicking out everyone or a genocide of the Jews there. I don't disagree there is a lot of antisemitism in the Arab world and everywhere, it's possible to protect the lives of Jews and Arabs in the region though.

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