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Just thinking back to last season. We see in the cartoon flashbacks that Edgar tells Noir to take out Soldier Boy because they have a replacement ready for him. There’s no mention of the replacement (which we know to be homelander) being his kid.

Fast forward to the present day and homelander confronts Noir. Noir says he knew. But how? It seems like the writers just wanted to give homelander a reason to kill his closest confidante, which we saw him do in season 1 with Stilwell because she lied about his kid. So their reasoning is homelander isn’t thinking rationally and kills Noir out of anger for lying about his dad. But Noir couldn’t have known, and even if he did, Soldier Boy was presumed dead for decades.

Just seems that whole season 3 finale missed the mark. But season 4 looks to be off to a great start.

The pacing and the editing is completely off. I don't feel any chemistry between characters. Starlight is non existent, Hughie too, they lack presence in the show. The sudden change in Kimiko-Frenchie relationship feels sudden and rushed. The Boys group feel disconnected from each other. Homelander suddenly wants to listen to criticism. And as others' pointed out it's repetitive a bit.

I read compendium 1 of the comics and am watching the show, and my dad is okay withnut, but doesnt want me reading the rest of the boom series? Is it worse or anything, or should it be okay to read? Like ive seen superhero orgies, ppl crawling into dicks, and the most gruesome violence in TV or comics, theres no way the rest of the series outdoes this does it?

At this point, having Homelander die a normal death like getting his heart punctured or by decapitation would feel extremely anti climatic.

Due to the nature of the shockingly horrifying and disgusting crimes he committed, he only deserves to die in the most painful way imaginable.

From a logical writing POV, it would feel very disappointing for him to have a peaceful death.

He’s been to the boys base and saved UE

I've noticed a bit of a trend here where people seem to get really upset at the thought that there might be *anything* at all that is poking fun at any parts of the left.

Usually, upon pointing out a joke that is aimed at the left, the conversation will go like this "That thing that you pointed out that seems like it is making fun of the left, actually it is not making fun of the left, because it is pointing out people who are grifting and/or aren't 'true' left wing people and are instead liberals/rainbow capitalists! Therefore that doesn't count!"

But my response to this would be:

1. Have you considered that criticizing supposedly left wing groups through fiction for "grifting" might be a true and substantive critique of real life left wing movements?
2. It feels weird to claim that all criticisms of left leaning groups don't count because you can imagine an even further leftwing group, therefore because the show didn't criticize the hyper specific group that exists only in your mind, then the show isn't "really" criticizing the left.

As an example, you can look at the way too on the nose parody of AOC that is in the show. Now, take the show's over the top jokes about that character, and imagine that like all jokes there is a kernel of truth to them, and apply them to the real life AOC (who is one of the more prominent left leaning figures out there!).

Or do those jokes don't count because there are even further left wing people out there than AOC?

It's just so unnerving that they leave their gloves on for things normal people would take them off for. It's like eating bbq wings with winter mittens on...

Ryan is the first and tbh probably last natural born supe. He is the ONLY natural born super being in the Boys universe. And unless they retcon it down the line, it's a fact

Other supes who have the same abilities as their parents who are also supes, aren't natural born supes, and if you're like "yeah but they have the same powers", there's clearly an obvious answer to that. Genetics & DNA. Now I'm not expert, I'm pretty shit at science, but Compound V effects everyone differently, it gives them different powers, because of how they're built Genetically, because of how their DNA is, cause it's unique, but someone's child, will have the same DNA. Andre & Maverick have the same powers simply because they share very similar and strong Genetic ties to their fathers, so they're DNA is gonna be similar, but very clearly, they don't have the EXACT same power set, just very similar, they're parents injected them with V as children, I mean hell maybe they didn't do it, maybe Vought did it without them knowing to get a more likely chance of another powerful/potentially popular supe, due to Genetics

Ryan is the first natural born supe because his father is not the same as every other supe. Homelander wasn't born and then later injected with V, he was created using the the combo of sperm from another very powerful supe, and compound V, he was created in a test tube, he wasn't birthed, he was manufactured in a lab. So V, is a part of Homelander, it's not only in his veins, it's just him, it's one of the things that made him. "If Homelander is the only supe capable of naturally producing another supe, then why did they use Soldier Boy's sperm?", that can be answered by what I said above, Genetics. Both Soldier Boy & Stormfront were pretty powerful supes, especially probably THE most powerful before Homelander, and they're also different from other supes, they got the premium OG Comp-V, ones made by Frederick Vought himself, AND because they were adults when they received it, and Soldier Boy was hands down the strongest supe before Homelander, so clearly they struck gold with him, so why wouldn't they use his clearly superior DNA, even if the V didn't do anything to his sperm to produce a natural supe, it's still pretty good DNA.

So Homelander is as powerful as he is because he was made using Comp-V, and the DNA of someone who has the best V+Genes combo ever. So he was able to create Ryan. And also, to anyone who says "but how can Translucent & Polarity have kids if supes are supposed to be sterile?", well, it's never said supes are sterile, it's just that Vogelbaum and the others involved in his creation/upbringing thought he was sterile, they didn't think he could produce offspring, and they told Homelander they didn't think he could, Homelander says "I didn't I co-".

Hope that clears it up

What if one of the random infants they gave it to became stronger than Homelander (everything that he has but more powerful) and decided to kill everyone on the planet when they grow up. There would be nothing they could do.

What is there selection process exactly, do they know what powers someone is going to get? I don't think they know, because in Gen V there where mentions that some powers weren't marketable/profitable. So if they could control it or know beforehand, why would they let the undesirable powers manifest or even happen to begin with.

Vought have gotten lucky so far that the supers have been mostly stable and not world ending beings.

I love The Boys and have not made up my mind about season 4. I’m skeptical about some things, excited by others, but we are only three episodes in.

One of my gripes is that the show does not feel like the stakes are too high. Despite all the death and blood and gore, the Boys and Homelander and the Deep and A-Train and Ashley are all still alive and have been central characters since season 1. For a show that is so gruesome and edgy, it seems to be really hesitant to kill off anyone of major significance.

One of the things I am looking for by the end of this season is whether one or several of the main characters are killed off to up the stakes. Something weighty needs to happen.

For this show to feel higher stakes, who do you think has to get killed off? Do you think it’s high stakes as-is? Is there another way to increase the stakes?

While reading an article by Heidi Venable on Cinemablend that asks if Sage is doing something we all do in lobotomizing herself to relax and deal with the horrific stuff she witnessed that day, I realized it hadn't hit me yet what the writers are doing.

I feel stupid not getting it until now.

Sage is using lobotomy the way we use alcohol or THC. Not, as I had thought, to make herself stupid so she could appeal to the Deep in a grand plan of setting him up for something. She is coping.

It didn't feel like a happy, go out with friends and have a beer once in a while event. It felt like the "I just saw some really bad things happen and I don't want to think about it any more" or the "my life is horrible and I can't do this anymore" drinking.

So how does that are go in life when someone is stuck in a box where if they leave they get lasered in half, they can't talk to anyone about it, and the stress and pressure and dissonance and horrible things you need to do are just going to get worse? We all know someone who has walked that path. Using alcohol becomes more and more frequent. They start using when it isn't safe in ways that aren't safe because they need it for it and not just the original reason.

Some people die from it in horrible ways. Some people ruin their most important relationships. Someb screw up their whole lives with bad mistakes. Some just become a broken shell of their former self. I bet Sage uses lobotomy more and more frequently to deal with the crap she is doing until she makes mistakes and it undermines her health, until even watchers like me can't miss the alcoholism parallel.

Could be wrong, but that's my current theory, what do you think?

Both these characters show up right after Hughes and Butcher use Temp V. I have no memory of any of these characters interacting with any other character in the show. Both these characters are from the main character's past and are integral to who they are and their traumas.

Just a theory but...come on...I would surprised if I'm wrong more than right.

I honestly would like for Cate's brother to show up in a future season of Gen V. I think a cool twist on him would be if he was like Wolverine or Sabertooth from Marvel and was living in the woods this whole time. Also anyone else want Tech Knight back for Gen V season 2? He has so much potential for humor.

The Boys S4 is a solid penultimate season. There's a noticeable dip in quality, but the political/social commentary remains sharp. Antony Starr further demonstrates why Homelander's one of the greatest villains in recent memory. #TheBoys

Tony's work in episode 4 is exceptional, and it features some pretty unnerving sequences.

The finale has a killer cliffhanger that hopefully leads to some needed formula switches for our final season.

https://youtu.be/2YqO5aBbU_s?si=4BpHGz1NsDCCyNM8