this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2026
492 points (98.0% liked)

Electric Vehicles

2772 readers
719 users here now

Overview:

Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.


Related communities:


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 28 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Seriously Western EVs are not bad. They are just too expensive.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Western EVs are not bad.

(Except Tesla.)

[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is this the pinnacle of safety features Tesla or....

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Volvo, probably. If I had to pick one manufacturer who's always been on the leading edge of safety.

As for Tesla, I wouldn't consider "lock all the doors when the car catches on fire" to be a very good safety feature.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Volvo Cars is majority owned by Chinese company Geely. Perhaps not 'Western' anymore

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Irony? yes,. safety, no.

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz -3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... They kind of are. I had my old cars leading period end and I went to drive many cars. I tried everything from Audi to XPeng and for all of the western brands, save Tesla the level of system integration is just... Very limited. The Chinese cars have mostly copied Tesla, but XPeng for example had a feature to build little automations in their app.

The UX on most weatern brands is lagging behind by almost 10 years. The trunks are small and mostly no frunks. The base versions have very few goodies and a similar level of features brings the cost to about 1.5x. The price aspect is there, but it's not just that.

Still, I don't want to drive a nazimobile and I feel like I don't want a Chinese car either.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

it's amazing how you claim western stuff is bad because small trunk and no front storage. but your claims for why the other stuff is good is because of some stupid application for you phone... which has NOTHING to do with the car itself.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago

because of some stupid application for you phone... which has NOTHING to do with the car itself.

I can say after driving 5 different brands over the last few years... The software on legacy autovehicles is dogshit. You just don't notice it until you experience something better. Just the entire user experience is terrible from legacy automakers compared to new companies. Tesla, Polestar, and Lucid gave overall great experiences even if there were individual issues. Kia, Honda, GM, and Mercedes all sucked ass for various reasons. Android Auto and Apple Carplay only do so much, they really only handle navigation and media, everything else is still dependent on the manufacturer.

You may not care about the phone app, or consider it part of the car, but it is part of the driving and ownership experience. And I will tell you that being able to simply walk out to the car, get in, and drive away without having to press anything on a key fob, take out a card, press a start button, or anything is an extremely nice user experience. Likewise being able to start the climate control remotely from inside the house or a store, or having it precondition so it's ready at a time you usually leave, or based on your calendar, is a very nice feature... Especially if you live in an extremely hot or cold area

Again, you may not find these features important, I didn't when I first switched to an EV in 2018, but they are basic necessary functions in any vehicle I look at now. If they are missing, or inconsistent, the user experience sucks in comparison. And because they are software, they cost very little to implement compared to hardware things. They are a very easy way for the manufacturer to add value to the vehicle experience for very little cost, yet they still don't.