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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Was the outcome of that election better for the long-term health of the country? Was foiling a DNC plot to avoid a primary worth losing the election? I don't have those answers. I can only say that I am displeased with the current state of affairs.

Was the outcome of the 2020 election better for the long term health of the country considering how things are currently? It seems pretty clear that regardless of which of these two worthless parties wins, things always get worse in the end as they only work for themselves and their donors.

By continuing to offer support to either party, you're just continuing the status quo. Democrats don't need to do jack shit to earn anyone's vote when they're confident you have no other choice except "the boogeyman," and Republicans play the exact same game. People who think we need to "vote blue no matter who" would gladly elect a Democratic version of Trump because they're playing a team sport and it doesnt matter how bad of a leader or how big of a piece of shit they elect just so long as their team 'wins' the contest. The result of this is visible in every aspect of our crumbling nation. None of them are willing to do the job of actually repairing the damage done when they can just virtue signal over hot button issues and win your vote off that alone.

Continually "sucking it up" and electing a piece of shit because the other guy is a bigger piece of shit is precisely why we're in the mess that we're in because you're ensuring that a piece of shit is always the one winning.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

I think the four years without Trump was great. Had Trump not won a second term, justice would have continued to be served to Trump and his conspirators. That's mostly all gone now.

I get that Biden was not a lot of voters' favorite choice, but I take issue with the way you infer that things would be just as bad had either won. I don't think I need to cite any sources to say Trump's administrations have done great harm to the people living in the US as well as those around the world.

I also take issue with saying "vote blue" voters would elect a "Democrat Trump." What even would that be? I think that's leaning into the "both sides bad" type of argument that attempts to paint spineless DNC ghouls just as bad as terrible RNC monsters.

You make a note of pandering to hot-button issues, but you don't pay heed to the multi-decade effort of conservative think tanks creating and weaponizing wedge issues. That's literally a political strategy that the RNC has used to great success.

People cite the ratchet effect as a reason for why things keep shifting to the right. I counter by saying with no anchor on left, the whole window drifts to the right. By abandoning DNC candidates during a presidential election you are purposefully pulling up your anchor to let it all drift away.