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Mitochondria was imprisoned by cells and forced to labour to feed them. ACAB
yeah i remember how shocked i was recently when i told somebody "the farmers don't grow food, the plants grow food". and they responded with "yeah but that's their fate. plants literally exist to be eaten" and i was like "what if you said that about people? some people literally exist to be enslaved?"
point is, we treat nature with no respect about how it feels. this goes for plants but also other animals. it's quite weird if you think about it. anyways, this discussion is getting weird.
Are you trying to say we need to grant plants personhood?
I think you might be creating a false equivalence when comparing using plants for stuff to literal slavery. Just a little bit.
It's pretty horrible. The more I understand abt plants, the more I'm like - shit, this really don't wanna be eaten.
Not true: many plants (such as nuts and fruits) demand to be eaten, and some literally cannot continue to grow unless they pass through an animal's digestive tract first.
What they want is different than what you want.
The plants want the fruit to be eaten by a specific animal. Human beings do not have any such symbiotic relationship with any plant I know of. You'd get very sick, for example, if you ate a Cassowary Plum.
The power of science offers humans the ability to eat many things that were not originally designed to be eaten by us.
May I point you towards Friendly Carnivore
Plants can't run away so they defend themselves with chemical warfare. Most of us can detoxify a lot of the common food plants, but some of the accumulated toxins get most people in the end — a lot of the diseases of aging are effects of the poisons plants use
At the lowest end they block nutrient absorption like tea blocks iron
As you say, the more you know the less good they seem
If you're intolerant of some of the common food plants (for me it's wheat and cocoa. Apparently my ancestors didn't have wheat until 6000 years ago, and cocoa came with the Colombian exchange so no surprise many of British stock can't handle all of those plants' attacks
Meat really don't wanna be eaten too.
This is necessary. Life feeds on life.
No beef complains before the captive bolt gun turns the brain off forever
They are protected from other predators which would give them a much more painful death
...I'm not a vegan but wow. Cattle live a whole life of horror. Pretending that eating meat is more moral than than eating plants because they suffer less is plain deliusion.
Well except that one cow