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For those who aren’t familiar, british soccer commentator Andy Gray said this of Messi back in 2010/11, questioning whether Messi could dominate in tough conditions against a physical premier league club. It’s now a popular joke within the soccer and internet community.

For the NBA, is it “Can he do it after a night out in Miami?” “Can he do it on the second night of a back to back in Denver?” “Can he do it after the Lakers sent missed foul call video evidence to the league?” Something else?

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[–] Megatron_McLargeHuge@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can he do it against NCAA competition?

(Said about Luka before he entered the league)

[–] rbergg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

my immediate thought lol

[–] rorank@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will admit, I’m one of the dudes who said that. Underestimating foreign leagues is one of the biggest L’s I’ve taken over the past handful of years since euro and African players are dominating the league right now.

[–] PersonFromPlace@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s kind of infuriating that AAU and NCAA basketball is kind of archaic and flawed. It just forces people to be stars for attention, but then the NBA is so different tactically that your skills may not transfer over.

[–] Own_Cricket_6736@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

a la AAU/NCAA god Jahlil Okafor

[–] Notsozander@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Luka was playing men at 15, that’s what sold me. But I can say I did not think some of these dudes would be as good as they are.

[–] OUEngineer17@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it's probably somewhat true. College defenses will just form a wall against getting into the paint, and double team him all the way down the court. He'll make the right pass to completely open teammates who will just fumble the ball or miss a wide open shot. It happened to Trae in the 2nd half of his NCAA season, and had people questioning if he was an NBA player.