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the KIDS act may or may not pass the US senate, the EU is planning a social media ban, chat control might pass, etc.... what exactly do i have to do to prep for all this?

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

I2P

I2P!

I2PPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!

We can build another internet here, if we want to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P

Imagine p2p torrents, but crazy encrypted, and you build an internet out of that. That's basically I2P.

Everyone is a dns/routing server for everyone else, and no one actually knows whose traffic is going where.

If you stay inside of I2P, its basically impossible to be de anonymized, unlike with TOR, where a government LE or Intel agency can just operate nodes and de anonymize people.

[–] yestalgia@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I read through the wiki. How do I actually use it?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

I won't lie, setting it up and configuring it and actually using it is basically confusing as fuck... I've been doing this kind of shit for decades, and this is fucking complicated to me.

So... yeah. If more people could use this, maybe we could actually get something approximating a user friendly set up/usage guide or setup script type thing.

I think MentalOutlaw has a video or two explaining it, but... those would be several years old by now, may be out of date.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes! I totally agree. I did do host a public yacy instance over I2P already (search engine)

I have been experimenting with Lemmy and stoat over I2P. I did get them working but it is still a big Hassel. Also for anyone wanting to try hosting stoat. You can't use i2pd because it doesnt implement full socks which breaks some of the http headers you need with stoat.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If you can actually figure out some more shit there, document it, that would be extremely useful information, imo.

Theoretically, at least a modified version of lemmy should be constructible within I2P land... but trying to make it accessible via clearnet would... almost certainly be basically not worth it, and arguably defeat the entire point?

It is possible to use I2P as effectively an extremely complex VPN sort of thing for clearnet, via outproxies, but you then just have to trust the outproxy, basically.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

This is great for now but still uses the same hardware and infrastructure as the "regular" internet and is therefore susceptible to government control. Granted, they'd have to cut way deeper than just age verification laws.

If you stay inside of I2P, its basically impossible to be de anonymized

Unless there is another zero day, like in 2014.
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2014/07/29/i2p-patched-against-de-anonymizing-0-day-tails-integration-still-to-follow/

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Written in … Java!

Whyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Jokes aside; very cool.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Shit I didn't even know that existed, thanks!

[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Using I2Pd very sucessfully on my node. Can recommend!

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Because its old. (And arguably battle tested).

[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Y'know what? I've been waiting to try it, but I shall wait no more. Thanks for the little push <3

[–] tixooo@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Interesring...