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tl;dr, they waited for the opposition to go on holiday and then pushed through a special resolution that required them to vote no in order to not pass. It's shady as fuck.
That's not exactly correct. Actually the parliament voted on the request for urgent procedure (last Tuesday), so technically everyone who voted for the "urgent" procedure, voted for Chat Control V1.0.
And from what I could see, it was soc.dems, centers and conservatives who voted for that.
It's almost like our institutions and political class across the developed world are acting on behalf of capital and not in the peoples best interests...
Maybe that's why they all collude with surveillance capitalism to violate our civil rights wholesale, and expand the surveillance state...
These are not the actions of a government "for the people". These are the actions of criminally corrupt tyrants and traitors who should spend the rest of their lives in prison. The fact that they won't should tell you everything you need to know about our "democracies".
How does this help the capital? Those big tech companies have the data already and mine it for ad profiling and teaching AI. I’m not saying it isn’t, I would only like to hear your thoughts.
This is just one small step in the multi-decade implementation of mass surveillance.
"In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D."
"We're already scanning all of your files for X. Why don't we also scan them for all other crimes, A-Z?"
Statistical models and inference are mathematically guaranteed to have false positives and false negatives. False positives in this context mean entirely innocent people will be flagged and scrutinised, and have their private data shared, or potentially be investigated, when they have done nothing wrong at all. If fingerprints are one in a 1 million, and you have a database of a billion people, on average you'll implicate ~1000 innocent people every time you run a print. That's how you end up with millions of people on a watchlist. It's criminally incompetent, at best.
You shouldn't forget about selective enforcement.
They had this surveillance, on a far greater scale, in communist countries like East Germany so it isn't just about capitalism.
We don't live in East Germany. We're supposed to be living in democracies where our governments act in our best interests, and our rights are not for sale.
This is a mentally-ill level of ignorance. The KGB or Gestapo couldn't even dream of the surveillance state Western capitalism has already built. They didn't have tracking devices and microphones in the pockets of most adults on Earth. They didn't capture millions of data points about all of their daily lives. They didn't have billion dollar economies structured around the capture and sale of that data. They didn't have the ability to flag dissidents or resistance autonomously, in real-time based on statistical modeling, or the capability to execute everyone they flag as opposition with cheap fully-autonomous drones. This is called turnkey-totalitarianism. All the tools have already been built. The only thing a tyrant needs to do is turn the key.
Either educate yourself about the world or keep your ignorance to yourself. Your opinion is currently worthless.
Taking a lesson in underhanded politics from US republicans. Pass shitty legislation at midnight when nobody else is around to disagree with them.
Huh, that sounds like there's some next system level evaluation that can repel it then
Well, my country's legislative bunch has already said, that mass surveilance is against our constitution. I doubt Finland is the only country in EU to have that, so even if it passes fully, it is going to have some big hurdles ahead.
Possibly, but Finland still uses Palantir tech, so who knows if they're following the constitution
They all are, but also the EU has at least some safeguards in that multiple level federation system, as fake as it is overall